03-23-2018, 12:32 PM
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The damage may be insignificant over the short term. It's like saying shutting off after a pulse doesn't hurt the turbo because my turbo is still fine.
I'm not sure how much the savings are.
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Are you somehow offended because i mentioned the thing about the turbo earlier in the thread or what?
I can assure you i didn't mean to offend anyone.
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03-23-2018, 12:38 PM
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X2. With my diesel Golf I only E-On coast (which I do a lot). With the key off you lose not only oil circulation to the turbo but also airbags, ABS, power steering and eventually brake boost, and it messes up my ScanGuage . In my experience you will not hurt your transmission from coasting briefly, even at higher speeds. Towing a car could conceivably be done over great distances and time, which may eventually do damage.
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Sounds like you need an injector kill switch.
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03-23-2018, 12:40 PM
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Are you somehow offended because i mentioned the thing about the turbo earlier in the thread or what?
I can assure you i didn't mean to offend anyone.
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I'm not sure where you got the offended part. I'm merely pointing out the inconsistency in your logic.
Anyways, let's keep this thread on topic - VW's claim that the gearbox may see damage.
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03-23-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Hic
The damage may be insignificant over the short term. It's like saying shutting off after a pulse doesn't hurt the turbo because my turbo is still fine.
I'm not sure how much the savings are.
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The savings are insignificant in the face of possible damage. Engines usually idle around 0.25 gallons, roughly 1 liter, per hour. So if you spend 10 minutes coasting, the difference between on and off is 0.05 gallons or 0.1 liters.
The money difference is insignificant.
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03-23-2018, 01:01 PM
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The savings are insignificant in the face of possible damage. Engines usually idle around 0.25 gallons, roughly 1 liter, per hour. So if you spend 10 minutes coasting, the difference between on and off is 0.05 gallons or 0.1 liters.
The money difference is insignificant.
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Hmm, perhaps I wasn't clear enough, but I'm curious if this does indeed harm the gearbox, and how it does so. I am interested in the mechanical ongoings. Whether one should engine off coast is a separate issue that I don't want confused with the topic. Same with whether other components in the car may be damaged, or the risks of engine off coasting, these are off topic.
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03-23-2018, 02:50 PM
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Some manual transmissions pump or circulate lube oil when driven by the engine. Some manual transmissions lube properly when driven by the road wheels. My Saturn has a F35 Getrag transmission and has no restrictions on flat tow speed or distance. Is there a distance restriction or strictly a speed restriction on your VW trans. It is a lack of lube issue.
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03-23-2018, 03:11 PM
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Some manual transmissions pump or circulate lube oil when driven by the engine. Some manual transmissions lube properly when driven by the road wheels. My Saturn has a F35 Getrag transmission and has no restrictions on flat tow speed or distance. Is there a distance restriction or strictly a speed restriction on your VW trans. It is a lack of lube issue.
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That makes sense. The manual mentions a limit of both speed and distance.
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03-23-2018, 03:52 PM
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03-23-2018, 04:39 PM
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I see that you understand what VW is saying. You are fine doing what you are doing, unless you can glide 50 miles at a time. LOL
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03-23-2018, 05:21 PM
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I agree, it looks like a long-term type of issue. Short periods of EOC should be fine.
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I'm not coasting, I'm shifting slowly.
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