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Old 02-24-2013, 04:13 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:15 PM   #242 (permalink)
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i had the same thought on the EGR and i have one sitting idle on my motor. Any tips on hooking up a simple system?

How to produce the steam is the question. Would atomized water have the same effect?

I would think if there is no direct benefit then how about injecting water in a gas ICE just to keep it clean? A clean engine alone could help fuel economy. No?


I would like to see more info on your testing...

Again, how is the steam aquired?
Steam interacts with fuel helping it vaporize.
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If you want to see the result of ultimate fuel vaporization check out propane carbs.
Propane vaporizes at like -40'F (also -40C) under one Bar of pressure, so there is no liquid fuel passing the intake valve.
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BTW: the question occured to me just last night about water injection when i was driving home in a thick fog.

i noticed my engine was running noticeably smoother and seemed to have an inrease in acceleration or power with less throttle applied than when there is no fog. I know that others have experienced this and i have experienced this more than once in more than one vehicle. So there must be something to it. But what is it?

Can anyone here explain this phenomonon?
Anyone know anything about my above question??

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Steam interacts with fuel helping it vaporize.
Here's vid on set up. No boiler pics yet. steam injected carb - YouTube
Thanks for the link but the vid was just 9 sec. long. I did see a few extra hoses

So is steam akin to the fog i was driving through? Please see previous post

What is that phenomonon?
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Anyone know anything about my above question??
Is quite common. The dense air, and lots of water in the air/fog, supplies extra oxygen to the engine, thus you get a better combustion.
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Water vapor is LIGHTER than air, that's why clouds are UP in the sky, not on the ground. It is also why bad (cloudy & rainy) weather is associated with LOW atmospheric pressure (high water vapor in air) and good (clear & dry) weather is associated with HIGH atmospheric pressure (low water vapor in the air).
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Is quite common. The dense air, and lots of water in the air/fog, supplies extra oxygen to the engine, thus you get a better combustion.
Hey Danmark! My fathers homeland!

How is the bond of H2O broken in an internal combustion engine? Is that how my truck seems to run better?

In other words how does the fog provide more oxygen?

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My dear friend - fog is coulds on or very near the ground.....

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