10-11-2012, 06:55 PM
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What a 2012 metro may have looked like
The following pictures are the Metro, Suzuki SX4, and Chevy Spark and the SX4 and Spark mixed together. I know of course the current Metro would more likely be a Swift or better, a Suzuki Splash.
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10-11-2012, 08:04 PM
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Too 'cool' looking ( for GM )
GM apparently wants the car ( the Spark ) marketed to females so it has 'cute' proportions that make the car look cartoonish.
I think your Photochop has much better proportions that the stock Spark. It looks ready to pounce versus hop along.
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10-11-2012, 10:07 PM
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The current generation of the Opel Corsa would be the closest to the original Metro concept.
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10-12-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
The current generation of the Opel Corsa would be the closest to the original Metro concept.
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I am still confused as to why GM (North America) decided to wast money redesigning a Japanese market car when GM (Europe) already made a decent enough car which fulfilled the same market segment.
And no, the Japanese / USA one didn't have any extra power (indeed it had less in some cases) or flexibility or indeed space or safety.
Madness.
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10-12-2012, 10:38 PM
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And the Opel Corsa is a good car for its class. I've learned to drive on a 2nd-gen one.
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10-15-2012, 05:45 PM
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And the Opel Corsa is a good car for its class. I've learned to drive on a 2nd-gen one.
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Its probably just below average in its class - you wouldn't knowingly choose it over a Fiesta.
Back on topic - the original Metro was a Suzuki underneath. The Swift has moved "upmarket" (Yaris / Fiesta land) and the new small Suzuki is the Alto
Current model in the UK has a 3cyl 998cc engine with 68 hp - exactly the same specs as George but it isn't the same engine - I don't think. They seem reliable so far (minor electric problems) can just about crack 100 (try that in a 1.0 Metro) and 0-60 is about 13 - in other words more or less bang on for the suburbs.
Add a turbo and that would be perfect.
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10-18-2012, 10:27 PM
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Its probably just below average in its class - you wouldn't knowingly choose it over a Fiesta.
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I'd rather get a Corsa over a Fiesta anytime. I've always had better experiences with Corsas than with Fiestas.
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the original Metro was a Suzuki underneath. The Swift has moved "upmarket" (Yaris / Fiesta land) and the new small Suzuki is the Alto
Current model in the UK has a 3cyl 998cc engine with 68 hp - exactly the same specs as George but it isn't the same engine - I don't think. They seem reliable so far (minor electric problems) can just about crack 100 (try that in a 1.0 Metro) and 0-60 is about 13 - in other words more or less bang on for the suburbs.
Add a turbo and that would be perfect.
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The Chevrolet Spark is better-looking. But the 3-cyl Suzuki engine seems to be a good option, delivering the same power 200RPM below the Spark's 4-cyl 1.0L engine peak power, altough delivers 3Nm less peak torque, but doing so 1300RPM below the Spark's peak torque, might actually be more pleasurable for city traffic.
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10-19-2012, 04:37 AM
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The Chevrolet Spark is better-looking
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(please note sarc following)
Eh ? We are talking about the same Spark - this one, drawn by a small child with a Transformers fixation ? The one that looks like someone grafted the front end of a Cruze onto the body of a Matiz ?
vs. this chariot of the gods styled by the finest minds in Asia ?
(also available as a Nissan and with the steering wheel incorrectly placed)
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But the 3-cyl Suzuki engine seems to be a good option, delivering the same power 200RPM below the Spark's 4-cyl 1.0L engine peak power, altough delivers 3Nm less peak torque, but doing so 1300RPM below the Spark's peak torque, might actually be more pleasurable for city traffic.
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The Spark could really do with new engines, both the 1.0 and 1.2 are a little long in the tooth for the small car market. Surprised they didn't use the Corsa 12v 1.0 ecoFlex engine - it is wasted in the Corsa but might work better in the Spark.
I seem to remember when Daihatsu started pushing the idea of a 3-pot in the old Charade (including a 1.0 Turbo Diesel - 47hp - form an orderly queue ladies and gents) their reasoning was a cylinder size of around 330-350cc which they had researched as being the optimum for a 4 stroke petrol. It was in the magazines at the time anyway. The 1.0 1KR-FE used in George is a Daihatsu unit.
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10-19-2012, 08:36 PM
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I guess I am a bit strange for an American, but I love these little cars. When I visited the UK and Ireland, I really enjoyed seeing the vehicles. But I just bought a fiat so I am a bit off. :-)
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10-19-2012, 11:59 PM
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I guess I am a bit strange for an American, but I love these little cars. When I visited the UK and Ireland, I really enjoyed seeing the vehicles. But I just bought a fiat so I am a bit off. :-)
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Those subcompacts are not my favorite cars at all, but for urban commuting are a good option. And in many circumstances are already better than a motorcycle
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