What does it take to recycle plastic at home?

[freebeard]

Cause and effect? People are crazy, so they spend the $900?

[Xist]

I still say that Apple could sell a ton of cars if they just put their logo on them

[deep narrator voice]Imagine a world where Apple sells 10 vehicles, each a rebranded vehicle made by a different manufacturer.

[freebeard]

Well Volkswagen just ceded the field:

VW To Fire Cariad Top Executives After Software Development Mess: Report
InsideEVs on MSN.com|4 hours ago
In the past, Oliver Blume's predecessor, Herbert Diess, wanted to make Cariad a global player in the tech field, including developing a scalable EV software platform completely in-house. However, sources at Porsche and Audi complained that Cariad was too involved with their own development processes, which caused delays and disagreements.

Apple's problem is finding a new market big enough for their needs. Aerospace? Robots? Someone is there ahead of them.

[redpoint5]

I'm short on Apple for the reasons SA mentions.

Once AI becomes robust, 1 button for dummies will still seem too complicated.

[freebeard]

I scrolled up through the posts and can't see who SA is.

Not interested in the Apple Watch becaus eit is a Tim [Somebody] product. But I was thinking about the hacker/terrorist watch the Casio F-91W (and the mods like filling it with mineral oil). I see that They ahve announced an interesting one.

https://www.g-central.com › g-shock-dwh5600-1-and-dwh5600-2-with-solar-and-heart-rate-are-now-available-in-the-united-states
G-Shock DWH5600-1 and DWH5600-2 (with heart rate and solar) are now ...
5 days agoMay 3, 2023 The G-Shock DW-H5600 series was officially announced by Casio only in Japan so far, but two models (DWH5600-1 and DWH5600-2) are now available for purchase in the United States at Reeds Jewelers for $299 each. (Shipping is available to U.S. states, D.C., Puerto Rico, and U.S. military addresses abroad.)

The thing that got my attention was it analyzing sleep patterns. There's noone around to tell me if I snore.

The DW-H5600 is a highly anticipated G-SQUAD (or “MOVE” in the U.S.) series modeled after the original “square” G-Shock 5000 series and featuring an MIP LCD display, heart rate monitor, step counter, Bluetooth smartphone link, and a rechargeable battery with wired USB and solar-assisted charging. The fitness tracking and analysis functions are powered by algorithms from wearables company Polar. Advanced measurements include cardio load status, blood oxygen level, VO2 max, calories burned (with energy source used), and sleep recovery status. The DW-H5600 supports multiple activities such as running, walking, and gym workouts (including weight training and cardio machines).

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I scrolled up through the posts and can't see who SA is.

Not interested in the Apple Watch becaus eit is a Tim [Somebody] product. But I was thinking about the hacker/terrorist watch the Casio F-91W (and the mods like filling it with mineral oil). I see that They ahve announced an interesting one.



The thing that got my attention was it analyzing sleep patterns. There's noone around to tell me if I snore.

Scott Adams

I had a quirky cheap "fitness" band back in the day that was very accurate at sleep analysis. It used impedance to measure galvanic skin response and an accelerometer for motion detection.



If you don't mind China having all your info, I've got several Mii Band products laying around. Course, you could always use a burner email account. I like that it goes a month between needing to be charged, and I've had many compliments on how it looked.

I keep telling my wife I don't snore, as I've never heard it before.

I took a sleep test and they informed me that my sleep apnea is very mild, not requiring me to hook up to a ventilator every night. Doc prescribed a "wedge" for my back that would have me sleep slightly inclined.

I don't think most fitness bands can diagnose sleep apnea or other sleep disorders. Maybe one with a SpO2 sensor could help diagnose if sleep apnea is causing O2 sat to periodically drop, but I'm just speculating.

[freebeard]

The Casio F-91W is $13 while the new one is $300. That will probably drive the decision, at least to find out if I'd even wear it.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Look for this symbol and sort it out. The rest can be ground up and used for a paving amendment or something.

That symbol has an interesting history. The chemical industry lobbied for laws requiring a recycling symbol on all plastic containers. Not so make it easy to recycle or because it could even be recycled but instead to give the people the idea that plastic is being recycled so they can feel good about using it. Just throw anything with a recycling symbol into the bin and boom - you as the consumer have done your part and that plastic will be recycled and return to you as new plastic. Of course that was not true - less than 10% of plastic is recycled and most plastic cannot be economically recycles but the symbol makes the customer feel OK about buying plastic.


However, even with plastics that can be easily recycled like HDPE it isn't just about the type of plastic - the shape also matters. What can and cannot be recycled depends on the recycling center in your area. Both the machines they use and the contracts they have to buy or at least take the collected material.

For example - in my area we can recycle HDPE containers and tubs but not the lids. The reason is because lids are flat and the machines don't pick them out so they continue on through the sort and end up baled with the paper. Same with cups smaller than 6 oz as they are too small to be machine sorted.

Originally Posted by redpoint5

You're getting nearer to my argument, that it doesn't make sense for millions of people to be recycling experts and clean and sort the recyclables, only to have that effort thwarted by those who don't sort or clean their recyclables.

It should all be a single container, a single truck that comes through the neighborhood (maybe yard debris still needs to be a separate container), and trained professionals with proper equipment and robots sorts through everything and cleans it.

That is basically what is happening today except homeowners are asked to discard the bulk of the trash before that sort starts. I work next to a recycling center and the trucks dump into a big pile, that material goes on to a belt and then machines and humans sort.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by JSH

That is basically what is happening today except homeowners are asked to discard the bulk of the trash before that sort starts. I work next to a recycling center and the trucks dump into a big pile, that material goes on to a belt and then machines and humans sort.

My neighbors recycle bin blew over and spilled everything across his yard. I picked it all up and put it back into the bin, but it was mostly garbage. Wrappers, tiny scraps of paper, lids, styrofoam, etc.

He's a smart guy, so just imagine what all the idiots are doing.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

My neighbors recycle bin blew over and spilled everything across his yard. I picked it all up and put it back into the bin, but it was mostly garbage. Wrappers, tiny scraps of paper, lids, styrofoam, etc.

He's a smart guy, so just imagine what all the idiots are doing.

He is doing exactly what the plastics industry spent millions of dollars teaching him to do.