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Old 01-27-2021, 10:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Guys here have mentioned the 360 many times, but I never really looked into it. I don't even think that I had ever seen a picture of it!
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Subaru introduces the 360 as an inexpensive yet distinctive economy car: "Cheap and Ugly." Powered by a two-stroke engine, the Subaru 360 claims 66.3 mpg and sells for $1,297. It was $300 cheaper than the similar-looking Volkswagen Beetle and was 1,000 pounds lighter.

https://www.subaru.com/company/50years/cars#subaru-360

Subaru sold 392,000 between 1958 and 1971
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Consumer Reports was influential in 1968, too, which is why the magazine's devastating review of the tiny Subaru 360 was so damaging. It took the tiny car a full 37.5 seconds to go from zero to 50 miles an hour. Sixty miles an hour on flat ground wasn't really possible with the car's 25 horsepower two-cylinder engine. That was probably a good thing. The front bumpers were "virtually useless against anything more formidable than a watermelon," the magazine said. Handling was dangerously bad. During abrupt maneuvers, the back wheels tended to curl up under the car like a turtle's leg.
Driving the Subaru 360, one of the worst cars ever sold in America
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Sales of the 360 collapsed. The man whose idea it had been to import the cars, Malcolm Bricklin, left the company. He would try again, about 20 years later, with a Yugoslav car...
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The Subaru 360 weighed 965 pounds.
The Archie weighs 1,300 pounds.

He claims that he maxed out at 45 MPH and the brakes didn't really brake.

Consumer Reports remarked the suicide doors pulled open in the wind during testing, recorded a 0-60 time of about 37 seconds, and reported 25–35 mpg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_360.

I cannot find any for sale, just this collection of 360s and Sambars in Florida.

Bricklin created Subaru of America and imported the 360, which bombed. He created his own car, which bombed. After Fiat left the U.S. he imported two of their sports cars, which were actually successful, until Fiat ended his contract. Then he imported the Yugo, which, as we know, was wildly successful, which is why there are more Yugos on the road than any other vehicle.

Wait, no, it bombed.

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Old 01-27-2021, 11:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I own a 360 sedan, never noted them as expensive or rare but maybe that’s changed

In terms of speed if your float and carb work, the fuel lines aren’t plugged, the motor isn’t worn, your brakes are honed, the timing is correct, fuel is e free, tires are inflated to 40psi and it’s a 4 speed
My car would top 75mph and still pull, 3 speeds were touch beyond 55mph since you were near redline, dragging brakes, wrong tires, messed up carb really effects the top end

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An Insight sounds like a less-expensive hobby.

The sedan is a two-door?
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For me it's easier to consider a 2-door car as a sedan than a so-called 4-door coupé
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I guess it would be a diesel Colorado at 28/30 mpg ($28k). That's actually not a bad price, IMO.

Soon it will be a Workhorse Endurance ($50k) or a Rivian ($60k).
My Colorado has an average of 26.5 mpg which I think not bad also because I did some modifications such as lift kit, aftermarket black rhino truck wheels and bigger tires.
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For me it's easier to consider a 2-door car as a sedan than a so-called 4-door coupé
Subaru 360...
Wagon, Sedan, Truck - 2 door
Van - 5 door - 3 row - seats 6
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Been thinking about this for a while, but the most fuel efficient pickup is the one you dont own or never drive. Right now the F250 is using absolutely no fuel sitting in my driveway moving crosswind at about 1000 mph while the world turns.
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It looks like the second-best is the 1996-1998 Toyota [Hilux] truck, which is rated 20/27 or something.
Note that the Hilux was discontinued in the US in 1995, replaced by the Tacoma that year. It continues in the rest of the world, but the fifth generation was the last you could get here. The Tacoma went 1995-2004, 2005-2015, and is now in its third generation 2016- .

I've been reading about these trucks the past couple days since I'll be flying out to Washington this summer to rehab my grandfather's 1991 Hilux and drive it back to Illinois. Then, I plan to use throttle-stop testing to measure drag changes from an airdam at various heights, tailgate spoiler, bed cover, rear wheel air dams, etc. It's a 4WD 22R-E 5-speed, originally rated 17/20. I think the highest-mpg Hilux sold here was 22 mpg highway (5-speed RWD).
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2wd, 4cyl, manual tacoma, probably?

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