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The politicians appear to be more of a problem than a solution.
This is what happens when you mix politics and electricity.
It all started when they closed NH Yankee nuclear power station for political, ND, nimby reasons. And here we are today:
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07-22-2019, 12:01 PM
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The politicians appear to be more of a problem than a solution.
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Actually, I am not sure that I would agree with what an A.I. decides is best for me. It might just decide that we are a virus. |
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07-22-2019, 12:07 PM
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We need to go to a MIX of renewable energy sources at least 3, plus storage is what makes sense.
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07-22-2019, 12:08 PM
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People often say that we need to combine random solar and random wind. What would be your recommendation for a third source, and is it consistent?  |
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07-22-2019, 12:21 PM
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Sun is anything but random. Wind is quite predictable, and in some places, nearly constant.
Biogas is a good solution - methane from sewage, farm waste, trash, etc. - can be stored and used to cover what grid storage cannot.
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07-22-2019, 12:47 PM
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Moon Power!
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07-22-2019, 02:41 PM
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Yeah, I keep thinking moon power is the most consistent, and as an added bonus might help dampen the eb and flow of tides.
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People keep saying things like "batteries have three times the capacity for one-third the price compared to three years ago."
It still seems like we are still pretty far from where we need to be.
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I don't think so. There are small incremental improvements recently, but I don't see there being massive room for improvement unless a totally different chemistry is developed.
Similar to what happened in the transistor world, there's limits to what can be done, and processing power isn't going to get smaller/cheaper/more efficient unless a completely new technology is developed. Moore's law is dead. |
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07-22-2019, 03:44 PM
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Not everything said is true, like that interesting thing that happened at band camp, or that time I went fishing...
Regarding moon power, quickly! Before it gets away!
Often the simplest explanation is that someone is lying.
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07-22-2019, 05:26 PM
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Not everything said is true... ==>Regarding moon power, quickly! Before it gets away!... <==the simplest explanation is that someone is lying.
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I'm not sure what you're on about. Re Permalink #7, if you follow the Climate Consensus thread, find Permalink #6214
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hardware.slashdot.org/story/.../startup-aims-to-tackle-grid-storage-problem-with-new-porous-silicon-battery
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New submitter symgym writes:Recently out of stealth mode is a new battery technology that's printed on silicon wafers (36 million "micro-batteries" machined into 12-inch silicon wafers). It can scale from small devices to large-scale grid storage and promises four times the energy density of lithium-ion batteries for half the price. There should also be no issues with fires caused by dendrite formation.....
Hallquist also notes that the new batteries are 100% recyclable. "At the end of the life of this product, you bring the wafers back in, you clean the wafer off, you reclaim the lithium and other materials. And it's essentially brand new. So we're 100 percent recyclable." "Hallquist says the battery banks that Cross Border Power plans to sell to utility companies as soon as next year will be installed in standard computer server racks," reports IEEE Spectrum. "One shipping container worth of those racks (totaling 40 racks in all) will offer 4 megawatts (MW) of battery storage capacity, she says. Contrast this, she adds, to a comparable set of rack-storage lithium ion batteries which would typically only yield 1 MW in a shipping container."
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