CNET: your '92 Civic may get far better MPG than a new car, but it still sucks!

[JacobAziza]

Originally Posted by Christ

I mean come on... they grip so well that instead of sliding, they FLIP RIGHT OVER!

Disclaimer: Please do not take this post seriously.[/QUOTE]

I keep reading with agitation and wanting to respond with physics lessons - only to find its a joke.

[Christ]

LOL - Sorry, friend. I should have made it more obvious that I was just responding to the previous sarcasm.. I'll fix it!

[MetroMPG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by shovel
Driving a motorcycle in accordance with america's traffic laws endangers no-one but the person who chooses to ride the motorcycle, who as an adult can decide to travel on such a form of vehicle.

Huh?

Sure looks like a Peugot to me!

(Does that nullify the image as a response to driving according to American laws? )

[jamesqf]

I'm sure there has to be something in those laws about not running into other vehicles :-)

[Allch Chcar]

To put it plainly the newer Honda sucks more, it just does it faster.

And kudos for the overall safety and not just safety in a collision. Politicians may use SUVs but those ones are modified armored vehicles compared to the civilian models. An APC is safer but it's less practical and luxurious to ride in. The same theory goes for armor as for vehicle size, there's always a bigger munition load out.

I prefer the barebones models. Manual everything, rubber interior, stock HP, spaceframe chassis. Road carver all the way. Manual adjustable suspension for passengers.

[some_other_dave]

Originally Posted by 99LeCouch

Same thing on the roads. Give people a "safer", more tank-like automobile. They'll still figure out some way of killing themselves in it. It's just going to take dumber driving.

I wish I could remember where I read this, but evidently if you check over the statistics our "safer cars" don't actually seem to have changed the fatality rates (per mile traveled). Not once you factor speeds and a few other things out of it. The theory espoused in the (article? book?) I was reading was that this was due to people driving to a "level of perceived risk".

So today's cars, with crumple zones and power disk ABS brakes and airbags and so on simply make people "push harder", leave less room to react, and so on. Which fits with my own (very unscientific!) observations pretty well.

-soD

[shovel]

Originally Posted by some_other_dave

I wish I could remember where I read this, but evidently if you check over the statistics our "safer cars" don't actually seem to have changed the fatality rates (per mile traveled). Not once you factor speeds and a few other things out of it. The theory espoused in the (article? book?) I was reading was that this was due to people driving to a "level of perceived risk".

So today's cars, with crumple zones and power disk ABS brakes and airbags and so on simply make people "push harder", leave less room to react, and so on. Which fits with my own (very unscientific!) observations pretty well.

-soD

werd, I know my girlie drives her quiet, isolating, no road feedback TL a hell of a lot faster than I feel comfortable with - when she was driving my old Trooper she drove it slow and carefully even though it was nowhere near stock and absolutely not the handling disaster that stock Troopers are.

People drive as fast as they feel safe driving, regardless of the speed limit or the road conditions. If you completely isolate them from the sensation of speed, they will continue accelerating until they feel like they're going somewhere. I think electric, or non-internal combustion cars will only increase this behavior.

[tjts1]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

About the picture. The car's driver probably felt they had the right-of-way and failed to yield it to the motorcycle. A motorcycle doesn't just run into a car at high speed for no reason. Unless the driver of the motorcycle was street racing. Darn kids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

Originally Posted by shovel

werd, I know my girlie drives her quiet, isolating, no road feedback TL a hell of a lot faster than I feel comfortable with - when she was driving my old Trooper she drove it slow and carefully even though it was nowhere near stock and absolutely not the handling disaster that stock Troopers are.

Maybe we should install big metal spikes in the middle of every steering wheel. You know, to get people to slow down. LOL

[JacobAziza]

Victim blaming?
There's no way to know who was at fault. The driver of either vehicle could be the victim.

Metal spikes in the steering wheels sounds like a very very good idea.
I bet it won't catch on though...