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Old 08-03-2008, 02:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Truck - '00 S10 Extended Cab
90 day: 23.68 mpg (US)
Experiment: smooth wheel discs tested A-B-A - 4.6% mpg improvement @ 65 mph

I drive a 2nd gen S10 (2000) extd. cab and I've got some data on wheel covers

noticed changes in scangauge readings after installing covers
So I went out in search of A-B-A and (~250 miles later) found +1.3 mpg
On ~28 mpg runs - That is about 4-5% - depending on how you want to figure it
(I've got lots of info on methodology & data if anyone cares to see it)

This is in the ball park of aeroheads posted data for wheel cover savings:
aero mods-data-% change or Cd change ( installment # 7-Wheels/Tires/Wheelcovers/etc.

I realize most vehicles (even S10s) may not see that kind of improvement
but have stock "swirlies" and they are very un-aerodynamic
where I live here in Kansas - there are bunches of S10 with these wheels
they aren't bad wheels for stock - aluminum & only ~15 lbs
for those of you who have not seen what I am talking about I have attached photos

also I have an after pic of the covers on the truck
As for my covers - I'm sure you are desperate to know who makes these aerodynamic wonders....
check out pic 3 - Walmart 16" pizza pans - $2.97 ea.


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Old 08-03-2008, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Concrete: encouraging results! Yes, please, post your methodology.

I agree with your assessment of the OEM alloy wheels; they are far from the aerodynamic ideal. And the worse the starting point, the more likely smoothies will make a measureable improvement.
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Old 08-03-2008, 03:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The Truck - '00 S10 Extended Cab
90 day: 23.68 mpg (US)
Methodology of wheel disk test

The story-

been reading at Ecomodders and slowly modding truck
here is where the truck is at for this testing:
Tune up, Bed cover, E-fan, high end tire pressure, upper grill block.
Scan gauge, driver adjustment

with wheel covers I started to see +30mph regularly - streight & level - A milestone!
but wheel covers were not suppose to make much difference, right?
I had only put them on so my wheels were not cupping air into the wheel skirts I intended to make
I had not done much aero testing so I was starting from scratch

So I spent an hour and a half driving around trying to get good high speed data
A-B-A-B-A-B.... it became a test of will - nearly 100 miles later I had developed a method
and I got three runs I trusted A-B-A
31.6
30.6
31.7mpg
not very rigorus, but I had convinced myself I had ~1 mpg drag reduction


The Method
Here is where I better explain what my proceedure looks like

basically it is a running start with curise control set at 65mph
scan gauge average calculator is reset at a milage sign post
route is 4 lane interstate - level but with two over passes - gentle curve 90 degrees
outbound is 3.3 miles - return is 3.1 miles - nearly symetric
clover leaf turn around is not in test to reduce the varience I was getting
nearly symetric path back for a two way run - scan gauge reset for return trip
all controls are set the same - vent on - fan#2 setting - radio & lights but nothing else
tested late at night for consistent temp and low traffic
tested in no wind conditions (yes it can happen in Kansas sometimes)

"wasted" a lot of gas - but now have a great baseline for future improvements

I should have stopped - But I didn’t
I knew to convince the Ecomodder community & thus get some data out on wheel covers
Even more testing would have to be done - so I did it

Data to follow
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The Truck - '00 S10 Extended Cab
90 day: 23.68 mpg (US)
s10 wheel cover test data

+150 miles later heres the data (raw)

................................out bound........Return..................Average
With wheel covers..........28.5.............29.2
...................................29.8........... ..30.7
...................................29.2........... ..29.7
...................................29.4........... ..29.8
...................................29.7........... ..30.1....................29.6 mpg

Wheel covers removed....28.0.............28.2
...................................28.0........... ..28.5*
...................................28.0........... ..28.2
...................................27.7**......... .27.7**................28.0 mpg

With wheel covers..........29.0.............29.5
..................................28.8............ ..28.0 **
..................................28.7............ ..29.5
..................................28.8 ..............29.4...............29.0 mpg

(sorry about the odd table format - got to be abetter way- but I don't know it )

A-B-A average 29.3 mpg with vs. 28.0 mpg without

* scan gage was reset 0.2 miles into course due to possible semi interference, so this run is .2 miles shorter
** I may have punched it too hard on acceleration - the ECU seems to stay in a higher performance/ lower FE mode for ~90 seconds or so after +50TPS - My bad - not very Hypermiler like. very noticable loses in real time at beginning of course - not too much difference in the averages over the course.

Variances noted, but all data is used in findings
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So on average, you saw a 1.3 mpg improvement @ 65 mph, or 4.6%

It's a lot of work to go out and collect data like this. Nice job.

Re. the cruise control - did you set it once and leave it "on" for all A & B runs, and just cancel it with the brake?
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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That's terrific!

So, how did you attach the pizza trays?
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The Truck - '00 S10 Extended Cab
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Re. the cruise control - did you set it once and leave it "on" for all A & B runs, and just cancel it with the brake?
yes, the whole test is "on the fly"
when I enter and leave the course - the only thing I touch is the scan gauge
I found that any other influences created too much error - even a brake tap
everything is setup and in place at least ~1/2 mile before I start taking data
it helps the ECU settle in to cruise
If I had made the pre-run longer - I probably would have fewer asterisks
but it took long enough as it was

I haven't run standard deviation calculations ( I have an aversion to statistics )
but I have gone this far - I guess I should dust the brain cells off and just do it
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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So, how did you attach the pizza trays?
Disclaimer:
there are better ways to attach wheel covers
especially if you have steel wheels - you can just drill and tap them

but in my case I tried to use the existing hub cover
drilled a hole for a 1/4" screw in the center of hub cover

two-part epoxy two washers & a nylon locking nut on the inside of my hub covers
first washer is for spreading load and giving the nut a bigger foot print
the second washer I fashioned a hex shaped hole to keep the nut from spinning use epoxy on it too (see pic #1)
held it all together with a screw while hardening (screw was oil coated to keep it from being glued on as well)

so in essence I have a tapped hub cover (see pic #2)

benefits: I can remove my wheel covers and it looks stock except a 1/4" hole in middle of my hub cover

down side: the wheel cover can spin since there is only a center fastener
(between a tight fit on the covers in the wheel and notches for wheel weights - that has not been a show stopper - but I have one wheel that will click occasionally on a hard stop)
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Old 08-06-2008, 03:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for your work on this project. It's good for people to see some empirical measurements.
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Old 08-06-2008, 04:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Concrete -

I had the same idea because I have the "center caps", but I didn't execute it because I was worried about wobble and them unscrewing themselves. If you could find reverse screws and nuts, and kept track of the placement, you could install them so that they are always being tightened when the tires roll in the forward direction.

I'm also a big believer in extra washers to "spread the load", .

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Old 08-06-2008, 05:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmmm, how about using more than one fixing?
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yes, the whole test is "on the fly"
when I enter and leave the course - the only thing I touch is the scan gauge
I figured as much, but I wanted to get that tidbit into the thread so others can see the extent you went to get quality data.

Again, nice work!
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If you could find reverse screws and nuts, and kept track of the placement, you could install them so that they are always being tightened when the tires roll in the forward direction.
Well I'm already committed - the epoxy is set... wait a minute!
you are right - pause... running out and inspecting truck...

- the Right and side will want to tightening during breaking and the left on Acceleration.
that would explain my LH front is "clicking" during breaking
and I'm sure I'm breaking harder than accelerating
need to watch the LH for loosening and the RH too - for tightening
could crush covers or puncture my Right front bearing cap that is just under the hub cover

the wheel weights should protect me from too much movement but...
I think I will mark the screw to the cover - so I can note any relative movement easily
and I'll just replace Left front - it is a bit warped anyway - A-B-A-B-A... was hard on the thin covers

Thanks cfg83
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hmmm, how about using more than one fixing?
I totally agree (that is why I had the disclaimer)
but I was uncomfortable drilling and tapping my aluminum wheels
The plastic hub cover is easily replaceable if/when I screw one up
especially since I was not expecting any real FE gain when I started

still not willing to risk much in this -
I figure I'm up to a 35 tank pay back already on this mod (25 just in the testing fuel)
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Hi Concrete, I meant use more than one fixing in the hubcap. But I can see looking again at yours that isn't practical. Congratulations on your testing and findings by the way.
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Power to you, Concrete, but that sounds a bit too complicated.

I am seriously considering buying these instead:

Full Moon Racing Disc Hubcaps, Stylish Look, Great Prices, AutoAmenity.com

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Old 08-09-2008, 02:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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yep full moons would be great

but right now I am too cheap/broke
and the pay back is only $2-3 a tank even for me and my un-aero wheels & low FE ride
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Old 08-09-2008, 09:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Concrete, No need to justify your methods to me. I'm all on board with the make it/do it yourself bits and pieces.

Problem is, I just can't be boltin' home-made goodies on my 2006 Civic ... it looks brand new and the quality of items I would be able to make just wouldn't look right. If my car was at least 4-5 years old, OK, maybe.

So, I'm ordering those solid hubcaps this weekend.

As a matter of fact, I'll see your cheapskate move and go one better ... desert trays at the Christmas Tree Shoppes for $1.99. They come with a plastic cover (which I'd toss into a recycling bin) and use the flat, aluminized tray for a wheel cover. They're also lighter than a pizza tray.

No, if I can only find some factory-finished rear wheel skirts ...
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The Truck - '00 S10 Extended Cab
90 day: 23.68 mpg (US)
Standard Deviation Calculations

I have been putting off the standard deviation calculations
I have a lot of excuses as to why - but really it was just putting it off

There are a lot of ways to do this
- especially since my out bound and return routes are similar but not identical paths

lets do it the easy way

all wheel cover data = ave 29.3 mpg - std dev .63
all without covers data = ave 28.0 mpg - std dev .27

Darin - thanks for the reminder that spreadsheets do std Dev calcs
other wise I would still be putting this off
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Out of curiosity: Has anyone made transparent wheel covers? That way you'd get to still have nice looking wheels while improving your CoD.
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