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Old 02-02-2017, 01:08 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It is the 54 degree v-6 Opel engine. 3.0 liters. Dual ohc belt engine, GM put in Saabs, Cadillac Cateras and these Saturns here in the states. The Saab had a single low pressure turbo running off one bank of cylinders. The Catera is an Opel Omega a rwd car, and the Saturn is a Vectra B.

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Old 02-02-2017, 04:35 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Here's an example: A Mendeola Brothers double-A-arm suspension on a [Super?]Beetle floorpan. Compared to torsion bars or Macpherson struts it more refined in anti-dive and anti-squat. Off-road racers eventually go to (long travel) A-arms.

The rear trailing arm is similar in geometry to the VW, but the torsion bar housing is gone and the shocks are no longer upright, but laid down in the trailing arm. That makes for more usable interior space. So far as that goes, I prolly want a 356 coupe.

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Old 02-02-2017, 08:04 PM   #33 (permalink)
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It is the 54 degree v-6 Opel engine. 3.0 liters. Dual ohc belt engine, GM put in Saabs, Cadillac Cateras and these Saturns here in the states. The Saab had a single low pressure turbo running off one bank of cylinders. The Catera is an Opel Omega a rwd car, and the Saturn is a Vectra B.
It's quite surprising to me that GM resorted to an engine made in England for the L-Series instead of something cheaper and locally-made. I know the Omega, and IIRC the Catera was based on its 2dn generation which is quite similar to the Australian derivative that was sold in my country as a replacement for the locally-made 1st-generation Omega.


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Here's an example: A Mendeola Brothers double-A-arm suspension on a [Super?]Beetle floorpan. Compared to torsion bars or Macpherson struts it more refined in anti-dive and anti-squat. Off-road racers eventually go to (long travel) A-arms.
I've already seen pictures of Baja bugs with the double-A arm front suspension setup. Looks great, but due to the cost and my performance requirements being more modest for a recreational off-road rig I'd probably stick with torsion bars or eventually upgrade to McPhersons just for the space-saving. It would be enough for me just to go visit the relatives near the Brazil-Uruguay border.


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The rear trailing arm is similar in geometry to the VW, but the torsion bar housing is gone and the shocks are no longer upright, but laid down in the trailing arm. That makes for more usable interior space.
I noticed the shocks were no longer upright, but didn't realise it could make for more usable interior space. Sounds perfect to bring more stuff from those shopping trips in Uruguay.


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I like the 356 too, and even though I'm usually more favorable to coupés I'd probably be more inclined towards a roadster.
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...but due to the cost and my performance requirements being more modest...
Wrong thread for that attitude.

The Mendeola suspension hub to hub, and front and rear, ran $7K while it was on the market. Inrekor tried to sell an electric urban car chassis instead of stamping out the floorpan they already had prototyped and selling it for the same price, and apparently went the way of so many others.

The Inrekor pan would be a good match with the Edison2 in-wheel suspension.

We're four pages into the thread and I hadn't mentioned this:



Basalt composite tub, basalt soft top, bagged suspension, four motors, two differentials*, Kia Soul EV battery pack, and twin hydrojets to replace the propeller.

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Wrong thread for that attitude.
If I were looking for a racing rig I'd probably look for a more advanced setup, but I was thinking about a simple Baja bug just to have some fun while visiting my cousins in the countryside. And a simpler layout may eventually be funnier for a recreational user since it would lead to more challenging demands for my driver skills. Why not? The same principle seems to apply to those people who enjoy older muscle-cars that are way more challenging to control than an Euro sports car, for example.


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The Inrekor pan would be a good match with the Edison2 in-wheel suspension.
In-wheel suspension may have some advantages, but I still think it would not replace totally other suspension setups. At least not for off-road applications that require way more suspension travel than a no-frills city commuter.


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We're four pages into the thread and I hadn't mentioned this:



Basalt composite tub, basalt soft top, bagged suspension, four motors, two differentials*, Kia Soul EV battery pack, and twin hydrojets to replace the propeller.

Edit: *In software
Hydrojets are often reported to be less harmful to wildlife. Even though I'm not sure about its overall efficiency, that already seems to be a good point to get rid of the propeller.

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