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Old 10-10-2008, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OT? Help me get my bonehead town to allow electric NEV's

My bonehead town does not want to allow NEV's on the roads.

They have put up a web poll to see if there is any interest in allowing the vehicles on the road

Sadly the web poll is biased by asking if people want the speed limit reduced so electrics can drive on roads. Problem is the roads are already 35mph and would not need to be reduced in speed for NEV's. Also in this state all roads under 55mph and many 2 laners that are 55mph are considered uncontrolled and legally have no minimum speed limit meaning you can find mopeds on 45mph streets going 25mph. Why is a NEV any different than a moped?

Please vote yes on the following poll until the yes's outweigh the no's (it isn't binding or even a real vote)

News & Events:Pollcenter

Note that if there is sufficient interest a public hearing on the matter "may" be held to allow NEV's.

DO NOT VOTE IF THERE ARE MORE YES VOTES THAN NO.

I do not want to see 50000 votes yes in a town with 30000 people of which under 100 probably even look.

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Old 10-10-2008, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Results don't seem to be changing....

Either updates slow or rigged or elsehwhat?
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's a discouraging situation. Reminds me of the provincial situation here - still no allowance for NEV's.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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People are really really strange. Sort of like the HOA here voting my EV to sit and die. A meeting will be held soon, but now is the very worst time to move due to financial turmoil in CA. wrong season for real estate. If they say "no"; I am just plain moving a few blocks to one of the many foreclosures around here. Boneheaded people are sometimes stuck in the past and only think of themselves. Best of luck!
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Are NEVs specifically prohibited locally at this time? I don't know your state laws, but it would seem to me that if the state issued you plates you would be able to drive on any road except limited access highways.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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voted yes! it's at 28 votes for, 66 votes against at this time.
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I just looked it up and towns have to authorize their use.

The text of Act 329 says that, "the governing body of any city, town or village may by ordinance allow the use of a neighborhood electric vehicle on a roadway that has a speed limit of 35 mph or less and over which the governing body has jurisdiction."

It's time to talk to your state representative.
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Old 10-11-2008, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Of course, if they check their web server logs, they'll find a referring link from this thread to the poll, and you'll be BUSTED!

I assume you put the word out on other more EV oriented forums?
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Voted, seems like we're losing handily,
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well we're getting there, maybe they will hold a hearing even if there isn't a winning vote of interest.

The key with the law here is the word "may"

I am curious I thought federal law said all federally approved NEVS (not go karts and retroed golf carts) are to be allowed on streets uner 35mph. I am curious why doesn't federal law trump locals on this matter?
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Old 10-12-2008, 06:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I am curious I thought federal law said all federally approved NEVS (not go karts and retroed golf carts) are to be allowed on streets uner 35mph. I am curious why doesn't federal law trump locals on this matter?
Don't know which federal law you're referring to, but if federal funds were used to build/maintain the roads in question, federal law probably would trump local regulation.
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Well we're getting there, maybe they will hold a hearing even if there isn't a winning vote of interest.

The key with the law here is the word "may"

I am curious I thought federal law said all federally approved NEVS (not go karts and retroed golf carts) are to be allowed on streets uner 35mph. I am curious why doesn't federal law trump locals on this matter?
Will there be a town hall meeting on the subject? Go and fight the power (and videotape it!)
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Will there be a town hall meeting on the subject? Go and fight the power (and videotape it!)
Wait and see, the votes are about even. I don't know if the board is willing or not. If they do I will have to take off work to go.

My father said he is going to go in to ***** during business hours this week because of the flaws in the poll and bring up that a moped can drive in those areas, why is a moped safer than our 2500lb steel van?
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:01 AM   #18 (permalink)
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While you may already have this info, here it a link to the WIS DOT page regarding NEVs - (looks a bit outdated...)
http://on.dot.wi.gov/wisdotresearch/...lecvehicle.pdf

Here it the text from another page regarding registration of NEVs -

When operated on public roads, an NEV must be:

* titled and registered through the Department of Transportation (WisDOT), Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV)
* operated by a licensed driver, and
* operated only on local roads specifically approved for NEV operation by local ordinance

Operation on local roads

NEVs may be operated on local roads that have a speed limit of 35 miles per hour or less, provided the municipality that has maintains the road has passed an ordinance allowing NEV operation on those specific routes. Contact your local government for additional information on routes.


Bizarre. I suppose by this logic they could outlaw any vehicle... Could a road be 'specifically disapproved' for other vehicle types (heavy vehicles just cause too much road damage, some people might be scared by a motorcycle, Explorers might roll over on a 35 mph curve, etc.) Maybe you could get them on the typo "... the municipality that has maintains the road has passed..."
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:30 AM   #20 (permalink)
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