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Old 06-29-2010, 06:40 PM   #96 (permalink)
Clev
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Wow, I didn't know those numbers were available. I knew John Bryan got good mileage with his Ghia, but I didn't realize the numbers were that low. Too bad there's no place to put those numbers in the EVAlbum.

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Do you have links to Gary Graunke's project? I was extremely interested in it back in 2003, but pretty much dropped off the EV list around 2006. I haven't checked up on what became of that project and I am very pleased to hear that it is on the road! If its consumption is that high at 60 mph, I'd be extremely surprised. Then again, some conversions get far better or far worse efficiency than you'd expect...
Those numbers are from the EVAlbum. His entry confusingly lists both the lead acid and lithium packs, but I think his Wh/mi ratings are with the Pb pack. I haven't seen him on the list since, and his website still says "To be continued..."

Speaking of, here's a bit of text from John Wayland that seemed like a great project, if I ever come into some money. This is from 2002:

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Originally Posted by John Wayland
OK...the other Wayland idea....I've been toying with the ultimate conversion EV based on a space alein green Insight. 240V worth of the new, Optima sized 30 lb. Nickel Zinc batteries that have become affordable and available to we EVers recently, a Seimen's 106 hp AC drive system, Rudman PFC50 monster charger, and of course, the Wayland Signature sound system. The 2300 lb. EV would have a real world range of 130 miles per charge, could be fast charged in a pinch over an hour, or in 1/2 hour, be able to get an additional 60 miles of range, and the battery pack would have a 65-80k mile life expectancy. With a safe 10-12k rpm range from the light and powerful AC motor, the electric Insight could run from 0-100 mph in 2nd gear, and allowed to stretch out on an open highway, with the it's extremely aero wind cheating shape and lowered stance, in 3rd gear it would probably hit 130 mph or so!

The 0-60 time would be in the high 6 to low 7 second range with tire smoking torque (a limited slip dif. might be needed to keep the tires from being shredded too soon). Because of the special Nickel Zinc batteries, this would be an EV that has full power even in sub freezing temperatures, unlike lead acid powered EVs. I've already taken the measurements, and all of the batteries would fit in the IMA compartment under the hatch floor....no storage space lost. The under-hood area would be beautiful with the electric motor clearly visible and the inverter box neatly displayed.
Substitute LiFePo for NiZn and it sounds like an intriguing vehicle. He actually posted something later about being able to build trays that fit in all of the existing cubbies and holes, so essentially no holes would need to be drilled in the body.
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