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Old 08-16-2010, 12:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
Clev
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Originally Posted by Varn View Post
Fuel economy experts it isn't the deer that is on the road that gets hit. You and I can slow or stop for those. It is the deer that leaps into the vehicle that is the problem.
And, once again, I'm telling you that there were FIVE of those in the ENTIRE STATE OF MISSOURI last year. It isn't the deer that leaps into the vehicle that is the problem, it's the perception that somebody needs a tank to protect themselves from something that happened FIVE times in 161,000 accidents. I absolutely guarantee that MANY more people died in rollovers in full-size vans trying to avoid collisions.

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Most (over 50%) that live in the my neighborhood drive a truck or SUV, I am sure that not a one of us enjoys paying the 70 dollars for a tank of gas but it is a necessity. The vehicles around here get coated in mud when the road is soft. Ruts will bottom out my econoline. I use chains at times in the winter. Live in a city or suburb. Come take a winter vacation at my house. Winter here is a series of freezes and thaws. If you get lucky the temps will stay below freezing.
And the other 325 days of the year? I live in a mountainous area of California and pretty much guarantee that I get more snow and mudslides than you, yet I manage to drive my 4WD less than 20 days a year.

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Arragonis, the maneuverability of Alec Issigonis' creations won't save you once you are in a collision. The collision is something that happens when you run out of options and the unfortunate happens.
Why are you driving an Econoline then? What if you hit one of your 50% of neighbors that also drives an SUV or truck? If I were you I'd immediately upgrade to a Topkick. Hopefully there are no fully-loaded big rigs bearing down on you; no doubt they're killing hundreds a day on your route.

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The topic for this site is improving mileage, I made comments on why personally I don't want to own a honda car or the like and get told by experts who likely have never driven on a rutted gravel road that I just need to steer around a deer.
There, I fixed that for you. You don't NEED to drive a 5,000 pound van around. You've brought up the entire repertoire of excuses of every person who has taken up two spots at the grocery store with a Hummer.

The topic for this site is improving mileage. The top way to improve mileage is to only drive a 5,000 pound flat-faced block when you actually need it, and the second is to drive slower, which incidentally would help your deer avoidance (the topic of this thread) as well.

BTW, is this Econoline 4WD? You'd have better maneuverability and wouldn't have to chain up nearly as often with an S10 4WD. And you'd get 25-30 mpg.
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