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California98Civic · 04-27-2019, 10:37 AM

Question:

When would you consider a K-swapped G1 Insight or a V-8 Firefly an ecomodded muscle car engine rather than an un-ecomodded eco-ride chassis?

I'd say if the overall car is lighter than the muscle car, has better Cd (or at least CdA), and is supplied with more efficient cruising gear ratios, then its an eco-modded muscle car. Even better if a K-swap is tuned to run leaner at certain low low, light throttle, crusing RPMs, like pgfpro has done.

And similarly, when would you consider a classic car/truck chassis with an eco-engine swap, like the Firebrid or the PriaGhia, to be an eco-ride in addition to being a wicked-cool restomod? Maybe if the overall weight compared to the engine's donor vehicle is reduced?

Favorite such projects appearing on this site in recent years:

The Gaptooth K-swapped G1 Insight
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...hts-36581.html

samwichse's link to a V8 Firefly (inspire this post)
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post596785

The VW PriaGhia:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post575645

The Pontiac Firebrid
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post506873

1946 Chevy truck/Prius
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post535568

And pgfpro's 1991 Talon
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post421143

04-27-2019, 10:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
California98Civic Cyborg ECU Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coastal Southern California Posts: 6,299 Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe Team Honda 90 day: 66.42 mpg (US) Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike 90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US) Thanks: 2,373 Thanked 2,172 Times in 1,469 Posts	So you wanna build a muscle-modded ecocar or an ecomodded muscle car? What is that? Question: When would you consider a K-swapped G1 Insight or a V-8 Firefly an ecomodded muscle car engine rather than an un-ecomodded eco-ride chassis? I'd say if the overall car is lighter than the muscle car, has better Cd (or at least CdA), and is supplied with more efficient cruising gear ratios, then its an eco-modded muscle car. Even better if a K-swap is tuned to run leaner at certain low low, light throttle, crusing RPMs, like pgfpro has done. And similarly, when would you consider a classic car/truck chassis with an eco-engine swap, like the Firebrid or the PriaGhia, to be an eco-ride in addition to being a wicked-cool restomod? Maybe if the overall weight compared to the engine's donor vehicle is reduced? Favorite such projects appearing on this site in recent years: The Gaptooth K-swapped G1 Insight https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...hts-36581.html samwichse's link to a V8 Firefly (inspire this post) https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post596785 The VW PriaGhia: https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post575645 The Pontiac Firebrid https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post506873 1946 Chevy truck/Prius https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post535568 And pgfpro's 1991 Talon https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post421143 __________________ See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread. Last edited by California98Civic; 05-05-2019 at 09:59 AM.. Reason: Edited thread title on advice, to reflect the full range of the topic better