Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hybrids
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-07-2018, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
Hoopie
 
Hoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 189
Thanks: 22
Thanked 435 Times in 143 Posts
Hybrid Hot Rod 2.0 - The Pria Ghia

I brought a 1971 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia home to be joined with a 2004 Prius. Iíll do my best to document the journey. Coming soon... The Pria Ghia

  Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Hoopie For This Useful Post:
Bill the Engineer (08-10-2018), HHOTDI (08-08-2018), JohnAh (08-28-2018), MetroMPG (08-27-2018), S Keith (08-09-2018), Xist (08-10-2018)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-07-2018, 10:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
Administrator
 
Daox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 10,822

CM400E - '81 Honda CM400E
90 day: 58.68 mpg (US)

Daox's Grey Prius - '04 Toyota Prius
Team Toyota
90 day: 49.53 mpg (US)

Daox's Insight - '00 Honda Insight
90 day: 64.33 mpg (US)

Swarthy - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage DE
90 day: 45.07 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,164
Thanked 2,296 Times in 1,389 Posts
Sounds like a fun project. Looking forward to updates.
__________________
Current project: Help me kill my alternator - it is stubborn and won't die
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 06:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
Duck duck duck
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,280

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 55.57 mpg (US)

It - '09 Hyundai I10 Active Cool
Team Hyundai
90 day: 27.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,215
Thanked 1,628 Times in 1,064 Posts
Subscribed
All still well with the Prius truck? No news for almost 4 months?
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.14 Gm or 0.09 MM.

  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 07:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
Hoopie
 
Hoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 189
Thanks: 22
Thanked 435 Times in 143 Posts
Priuck is doing great. Drive it everyday weather permitting. Drove to a show in Toledo
(3.5 hour drive) this summer. Rained most of the way home. Realized how much the old truck leaks. Been working on weather proofing since then. Also had a huge speaker in it to mimic big engine sounds. Fooled a lot a people and got a lot of laughs. Even helped a friend move his couch last weekend. Good old/new truck. Didn’t think I’d do another build, but this Ghia fell in my lap. We’ll see how far the rabbit hole goes.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Hoopie For This Useful Post:
Bill the Engineer (08-10-2018), Daox (08-08-2018), JohnAh (08-28-2018), RedDevil (08-08-2018), roflwaffle (11-02-2018)
Old 08-08-2018, 12:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 12,498
Thanks: 3,010
Thanked 4,061 Times in 3,224 Posts
Yikes, I hope you don't intend to make it front-engined. It would need a raised hoodline like a New Beetle. Compare the cowl height.

Compare the weight and power of the two drivetrains. My own perpetually stalled conversion is a Highlander/LX400h rear axle into a 1958 Beetle. As a pure electric. The single-speed 68hp performance should equal the stock drivetrain and weight.

So I hope you put it in back. For inspiration I suggest the Toyota Alessandro Volta.
__________________
.
If you donít eat your collusion, you canít have any obstruction.
How can you have any obstruction, if you donít eat your collusion?
Nathan Stark
_________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 01:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
Duck duck duck
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,280

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 55.57 mpg (US)

It - '09 Hyundai I10 Active Cool
Team Hyundai
90 day: 27.57 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,215
Thanked 1,628 Times in 1,064 Posts
I donít know if the 54 hp (assuming it is a type 34 with the latest engine, otherwise it is even less) is enough to move that Prius shell around?
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.14 Gm or 0.09 MM.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
Xist (11-13-2018)
Old 08-08-2018, 03:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 12,498
Thanks: 3,010
Thanked 4,061 Times in 3,224 Posts
I think you're onto something. This is the oldest entry on my album of Photochops, from 2013.



VW engine in FWD with a Type III axial [secondary] cooling fan with an eleven blade Porsche [primary] fan running at crankshaft speed. My calculation was that with the weight savings and improved aerodynamics, the performance would be no worse than the VW platform, maybe not as good as the stock Prius (a testable hypothesis).

I support this approach. I believe it involves mating a Superbeetle transaxle with Golf driveshafts. Plus it conserves that Ghia bodywork. Plus you could make the Prius an hybrid again with a Buick altermotor.
__________________
.
If you donít eat your collusion, you canít have any obstruction.
How can you have any obstruction, if you donít eat your collusion?
Nathan Stark
_________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 07:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
Rapturee
 
HHOTDI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern Idaho...way up north!
Posts: 251

Kid Hauler - '01 Ford Excursion Power Stroke, Limited
90 day: 22.86 mpg (US)

Stink Bug - '04 VW Beetle TDI
90 day: 45.98 mpg (US)

2012 NC700x - '12 Honda NC700X
90 day: 71.83 mpg (US)

Kid Car - '01 Chevy Impala
90 day: 31.68 mpg (US)

Mom's taxi - '05 Toyota Sienna LE
90 day: 25.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 867
Thanked 67 Times in 45 Posts
Nice job, Subscribed! :{)
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2018, 10:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
Hoopie
 
Hoopie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 189
Thanks: 22
Thanked 435 Times in 143 Posts
It will be a front engine front wheel drive. Basically it’s going to be the stock Prius drive train shortened 11”. I’ve been studying blueprints, running the tape measure and believe it can be done. We’ll see as the project unfolds.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Hoopie For This Useful Post:
Bill the Engineer (08-10-2018), HHOTDI (08-09-2018), RedDevil (08-09-2018), Xist (11-13-2018)
Old 08-09-2018, 12:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
Rapturee
 
HHOTDI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern Idaho...way up north!
Posts: 251

Kid Hauler - '01 Ford Excursion Power Stroke, Limited
90 day: 22.86 mpg (US)

Stink Bug - '04 VW Beetle TDI
90 day: 45.98 mpg (US)

2012 NC700x - '12 Honda NC700X
90 day: 71.83 mpg (US)

Kid Car - '01 Chevy Impala
90 day: 31.68 mpg (US)

Mom's taxi - '05 Toyota Sienna LE
90 day: 25.98 mpg (US)
Thanks: 867
Thanked 67 Times in 45 Posts
Thumbs up


  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com