50mpg truck

[JRMichler]

Originally Posted by 5speed5

Based on that, I'm guessing a 2WD reg-cab Colorado (or GMC Canyon) with 4-cyl (2.8L) could come very close to 40 mpg. The S-10 should be similar.

I think I could get my truck to a 40 MPG average in the summer if I:
Air dam
Belly pan
LRR tires at about 50 PSI
3.42 rear axle ratio
Wheel covers
P&G as appropriate

With all of the above plus a good, efficient turbodiesel of about 150 HP, I think 50 MPG might be possible in the summer.

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by Sven7

Not many people "need" the ground clearance, either. How many people do you know that actually go two-tracking?

What do you mean by "know"? Most of my friends & neighbors, certainly. I expect there are also some differences in road conditions between Michigan and the Northern Nevada/Northeastern California area where I live. Perhaps I need to take some pictures...

A Subaru Outback will do that.

Maybe, though I've seen Jeeps high-centered on some of the roads I drive. But if you're using it as a daily driver, you're still getting not very good mpg, while not having much load-carrying capability. (By load, I mean 6-foot pine logs piled in the bed, and either about the same load in a trailer, or hauled down a slope that I needed 4WD with chains to get up.)

[TheEnemy]

Originally Posted by Sven7

Not many people "need" the ground clearance, either. How many people do you know that actually go two-tracking? A Subaru Outback will do that.

I just don't buy the argument for the pickup as anything but a lifestyle vehicle.

Me.

<---- The picture to the left needed more ground clearance than an Outback has, well maybe not, I have gone down roads that left a significant impression on the undercariage. If you look closely at the tailgate you will notice its missing quite a bit of paint. The rest of the bed is pretty beat up too.

Edit to add: I guess if you consider the fact that I like to go offroading (two tracking) hiking and camping away from other people and that being one of the primary reasons I got the truck and the Jeep then yeah it still falls under a lifestyle choice.

[nimblemotors]

Sweet! My dad did the same thing with his '52 Ford, although he made both the front and back of the trailer the trunk, so he pulled TWO '52 ford trunks as his trailer for car shows. Might have a pic somewhere, it was in a book..

Originally Posted by wagonef8

Here is Wagon from hondacivicwagon.com I also have a hitch on my wagon and building a trailer from a parts crx I bought

[Christ]

Originally Posted by baldlobo

i question weather the 1.7 isuzu diesel will bolt up to the north american gm metric pattern.

i know the s10 was sold with a isuzu 2.2l diesel.

It's the GM corporate small pattern, same as the 2.2 diesel. I actually forgot about that motor, though. The 1.7 came in non-VW Chevettes. At some point, IIRC, they were using VW engines in them. Unless that was the Omni. Can't recall.

[baldlobo]

isuzu 1.8l was in the chevettes; no vw diesels, omni is a more likely choice. Besides they probably won't pass emissions if you put them in something newer.

[Christ]

Originally Posted by baldlobo

isuzu 1.8l was in the chevettes; no vw diesels, omni is a more likely choice. Besides they probably won't pass emissions if you put them in something newer.

1. Provided you actually have to pass emissions testing. I don't.

2. No diesel swap that wasn't included as an original option will pass emissions specifications. The EPA doesn't allow engine swaps that weren't in original configuration, regardless of the benefits of doing so.

3. Now I have to find out what came with a 1.7 Diesel from Isuzu. :/

[NachtRitter]

The OP is mysteriously absent in this discussion...

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by NachtRitter

The OP is mysteriously absent in this discussion...

Maybe a bit disappointed that even we see it as a severe challenge ?

I'd love to be proven wrong, but realistically, it ain't going to happen.
He might get 50mpg running with just the truck, but what when he starts using the truck for its intended purpose - hauling stuff ?

It's not going to take some ecomods, or some hypermiling tips - it's going to take just about all of them.

[IsaacCarlson]

I was doing some number crunching with 4 cylinder turbo diesels a year ago and figured on 40+ mpg in the truck. I was using the factory gal/hr ratings for half load and full load, at full rpm. At full load doing 60 mph, it would get about 30 mpg and at half load it would be around 50 mpg. I figured on 40 as the average.

I was looking at deutz, cummins, cat, and some others at the time. Most of the 4 cylinders seem to use about 2.5 gallons per hour at full load/max rpm. Not bad for a truck......