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Old 10-27-2020, 02:38 AM   #161 (permalink)
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And that brings me back to this inspiration- an old dirt tracker that used early (round body) Falcon fenders:

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Old 10-27-2020, 09:56 AM   #162 (permalink)
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did it , looks like this ,florida wont allow it on the road



and here is a link to more
https://daytonahybrids.com/streamliner-prius/

with a stock prius battery it gets 38 mpg,
with a 10kw pack it gets 40 miles EV.

Indiana had no problem with licensing it, florida said " put the turn signals and headlights in a different place" or fu*k off
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with a stock prius battery it gets 38 mpg,
with a 10kw pack it gets 40 miles EV.
That's awesome!

Here's my '67 Volkswagen with a Miata inside. It only gets ~25 mpg though





I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a miata EV conversion for sale
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I haven't settled on a body shape, or anything.
With a 30% efficient engine and 95% efficient drive train you basically have a straight line between a 2727kg car with zero drag area and a massless car with .485m² drag area to play with.

Allowed mass as a function of drag area: (kg and m²)



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There is a LOT more power in Gasoline over Natural or Propane gasses.
What does it mean for fuel to have power, and what are the numbers?
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Energy density might have been a better way for him to describe it. Fuel with more energy/volume means less is used to do the same amount of work. A good example would be gasoline vs ethanol. You get worse fuel economy on ethanol because it takes a larger volume of it to do the same amount of work as gasoline.

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With a 30% efficient engine and 95% efficient drive train you basically have a straight line between a 2727kg car with zero drag area and a massless car with .485m² drag area to play with.

Allowed mass as a function of drag area: (kg and m²)
What does the plot line represent?
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https://daytonahybrids.com/streamliner-prius/

That's pretty sweet, but the front facade and the mix of metal and fabric panels is... unfortunate. And putting the headlights under the fabric skin is a deal-killer in my estimation. Front turn signals aren't visible from the offside.

Your work? Ignore my opinion.
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What does the plot line represent?
The line represents 100mpg.

If you have a car that weighs 1000kg then your max drag area is 0.306m².

If the car is small with a frontal area 1.5m², then your max Cd is 0.204.
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Re 168: Cool, thanks. [gently]We were always required to label our charts.[/gently]
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