03-25-2015, 01:12 PM
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That G1 may not be exactly what you're looking for:
But at least it's in good shape.
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Overal a great running car
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Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @∞MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%
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03-25-2015, 01:16 PM
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1st gen Civic hybrids also had manual (and lean burn). 1st gen Insights 00-07 were the only ones with manual trans. 2nd gens are all CVT.
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Thanks a million! I think this might be exactly what I was looking for. Any chance you could tell me what years the G1 Civic hybrid ran?
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That being said, I have to agree with Neil. Driving a Prius or EV is not a lazy affair if you're trying to get good FE. However, you can still set the cruise and get great mileage too.
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I must say that I agree with you here entirely. My short experience with driving the '05 Prius led me to believe that I could definitely be in tune with such a vehicle, as I would definitely be trying to max out my FE, but I don't think I could ever feel the same "in-tuneness," for lack of a better word, that I feel when shifting gears.
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03-25-2015, 01:21 PM
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1st gen civic hybrid is 03-05, not all of the 5 speeds had lean burn. You could also look into the manual transmission Honda CR-Z HYBRID
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03-25-2015, 01:26 PM
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I must say that I agree with you here entirely. My short experience with driving the '05 Prius led me to believe that I could definitely be in tune with such a vehicle, as I would definitely be trying to max out my FE, but I don't think I could ever feel the same "in-tuneness," for lack of a better word, that I feel when shifting gears.
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I totally get that. I specifically traded my last car for the 5 spd Metro to get a manual trans. 
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03-25-2015, 01:27 PM
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1st gen civic hybrid is 03-05, not all of the 5 speeds had lean burn.
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Interesting. How can you tell the difference? 5 wire O2 sensor?
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03-25-2015, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDevil
Direct response just like a manual, but without having to shift, ever.
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But I WANT to shift, always :-)
For the OP, if you want something newer than the Gen1 Insight, the CR-Z hybrid also comes with MT.
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03-25-2015, 02:09 PM
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But I WANT to shift, always :-)
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This guy knows what's up! xD
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For the OP, if you want something newer than the Gen1 Insight, the CR-Z hybrid also comes with MT.
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The age of the car isn't an issue as long as it's mechanically sound, so as it stands, these are my options: - G1 Honda Insight ('00-'07)
- G1 Honda Civic Hybrid ('03-'05) *may or may not have lean burn*
- Honda CR-Z Hybrid ('??-Present)
EDIT: I think I'm starting to fall in love with Honda, even though they seem to be phasing out my love for changing gears.
PS: I plan to edit the OP later, and include a master list, so that this thread can be more accessible to those with similar idiosyncrasies. :D
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03-25-2015, 02:48 PM
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So, is it only G1 Insight, or G2 as well? As of right now, this looks to be the only option.
EDIT: A used Honda Insight looks to be my only option.
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If I did not have my Sentra so close to fully sorted out I would be all over that Insight in Cocoa Florida, assuming it had no serious defects other than the clear coat paint issue.
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03-25-2015, 03:16 PM
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My Insight has flappy paddles so I can shift it if I want to.
It then has 7 preset fake gears that lock the CVT into a fixed ratio.
I have used it to good effect descending a hill in 2013 to increase engine braking, which also increases low speed power regeneration.
Since then, IIRC I accidentally pulled one once last year.
Other than that, I dont use it 
My cruise control buttons show signs of wear.
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2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
 lifetime FE over 0.2 Gigameter or 0.13 Megamile.

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03-25-2015, 04:41 PM
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There are quite a few threads on the G1 Insight floating around. I have one in this section that you might be interested in.
I love my car.
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