What are the famous design failure cars?

[ThermionicScott]

Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!

Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.

[Vman455]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

Recently the Chinese have been "probing" just about ANY / ALL U.S.A. websites for weaknesses...likely to embed "sleeper" virus bugs that awaken later (on specific dates) to do damage...or...to "call home" with 'pass-word & ID keys' to the family jewels form the infected websites.

The wider your net is cast, the more fish you'll catch.

Spambots are the electronic equivalent of a 30-mile drift net.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by lico

...so what gain they have to spam and than go?

More like attempt to spam and fail, and go. Likely Coroplast hasn't thought about this forum again since then.

[niky]

Originally Posted by ThermionicScott

Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!

Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.

A failure of marketing and product planning.

The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.

Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.

A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.

[redpoint5]

Tribeca- 18 MPG from an engine that only develops 250 HP? My 7000 lb truck gets that fuel economy and puts out more power. I'd give it a second look if I had more kids and the car could get 25 MPG.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by niky

A failure of marketing and product planning.

The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.

Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.

A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.

Ford's ill-fated EDSEL suffered from the same social visual-image impression.

[rodaniel]

+1 for the Pontiac Aztek!

[sidecar]

what ever the hell this thing is

#BreakingBad

[Bicycle Bob]

I'd give a dishonorable mention to the Cadillac 4-6-8, and various GM diesels that were built on gasoline blocks.
However, I have a blanket of scorn for all land vehicles that outweigh their average payload. For real efficiency, start with a velomobile, not a big steel box.
We have seen amazing improvements in automotive sophistication, but there's almost nothing available that weighs under a ton, or can be repaired at home. If there's no market in used parts because they all go to the crusher, I stay away.

[freebeard]

The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but....

Makes me wonder if you've ever seen a you-know-what.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_GI...round_the_name

The Azteck has a highly utile interior. I think it was done in by the unfortunate probiscus. If they had opened up the upper nostrils it would look like a Dodge Caliber.


https://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/mo...pontiac-aztek/