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Old 09-25-2018, 08:33 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!

Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.

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Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!

Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.
A failure of marketing and product planning.

The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.

Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.

A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.
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Tribeca- 18 MPG from an engine that only develops 250 HP? My 7000 lb truck gets that fuel economy and puts out more power. I'd give it a second look if I had more kids and the car could get 25 MPG.
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A failure of marketing and product planning.

The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.

Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.

A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.
Ford's ill-fated EDSEL suffered from the same social visual-image impression.
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However, I have a blanket of scorn for all land vehicles that outweigh their average payload. For real efficiency, start with a velomobile, not a big steel box.
We have seen amazing improvements in automotive sophistication, but there's almost nothing available that weighs under a ton, or can be repaired at home. If there's no market in used parts because they all go to the crusher, I stay away.
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The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but....
Makes me wonder if you've ever seen a you-know-what.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_GI...round_the_name

The Azteck has a highly utile interior. I think it was done in by the unfortunate probiscus. If they had opened up the upper nostrils it would look like a Dodge Caliber.


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