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Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!
Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.
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09-25-2018, 08:38 PM
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Recently the Chinese have been "probing" just about ANY / ALL U.S.A. websites for weaknesses...likely to embed "sleeper" virus bugs that awaken later (on specific dates) to do damage...or...to "call home" with 'pass-word & ID keys' to the family jewels form the infected websites.
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The wider your net is cast, the more fish you'll catch.
Spambots are the electronic equivalent of a 30-mile drift net.
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09-25-2018, 11:42 PM
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...so what gain they have to spam and than go?
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More like attempt to spam and fail, and go. Likely Coroplast hasn't thought about this forum again since then.
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09-26-2018, 03:11 AM
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Good thread, yes, but now I'm tormented by the question of why the Tribeca!
Seemed like a well-thought-out "bigger" Subaru, it just didn't sell in big enough numbers to keep around.
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A failure of marketing and product planning.
The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.
Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.
A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.
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09-26-2018, 06:04 AM
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Tribeca- 18 MPG from an engine that only develops 250 HP? My 7000 lb truck gets that fuel economy and puts out more power. I'd give it a second look if I had more kids and the car could get 25 MPG.
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09-26-2018, 02:54 PM
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A failure of marketing and product planning.
The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but the problem was that it was too high a jump in price versus other Subarus and wasn't as established or as rugged as competitors.
Once the grille was fixed, it still didn't look the part of the exciting faux-SUV, like the Explorer. Even if it was arguably better. Instead, it was just... bland.
A good product should sell itself, but you've got to give people reason to look at it before you can win them over.
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Ford's ill-fated EDSEL suffered from the same social visual-image impression.
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09-26-2018, 04:24 PM
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+1 for the Pontiac Aztek!
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09-26-2018, 04:26 PM
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what ever the hell this thing is
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09-26-2018, 04:44 PM
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I'd give a dishonorable mention to the Cadillac 4-6-8, and various GM diesels that were built on gasoline blocks.
However, I have a blanket of scorn for all land vehicles that outweigh their average payload. For real efficiency, start with a velomobile, not a big steel box.
We have seen amazing improvements in automotive sophistication, but there's almost nothing available that weighs under a ton, or can be repaired at home. If there's no market in used parts because they all go to the crusher, I stay away.
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09-26-2018, 05:15 PM
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The "flying va-female-genitalia" grille didn't help, obviously, but....
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Makes me wonder if you've ever seen a you-know-what.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_GI...round_the_name
The Azteck has a highly utile interior. I think it was done in by the unfortunate probiscus. If they had opened up the upper nostrils it would look like a Dodge Caliber.
https://www.carscoops.com/2016/12/mo...pontiac-aztek/
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