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Old 09-19-2018, 02:21 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Thread drift. The subject is 'famous design failure'. I saw a Tribeca on the street yesterday.

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Old 09-19-2018, 03:44 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I was talking about the first and second series of the European fiat uno, in europe was not selled with ethanol capability.

uno mk1 1983/1989
uno mk2 1989/1995

https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Uno

after this we have the fiat punto, in 1993, the fiat uno was keep just in south america
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to go back in topic in Italy we have other two catastrophic failure:
the alfa romeo alfasud and the alfa arna, second was tremendous

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Old 09-20-2018, 12:13 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I never see the wagon version or the blind van version.
in europe have just selled 15.000 vehicles, i know in south america was a success story.
The panel van was IIRC never available in South America, was meant only for export. Could've probably had some good acceptance locally, but the Fiorino pick-up was also more favored by not being liable to a tax enacted during José Sarney's presidential term.


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the basis it's a fiat uno. for the time was selled it was certainly a good and clever car, but didn't meet the design for europe. and to be honest fiat uno was way better
Just a remind: the Brazilian Uno was actually more like a rebodied 127/147.
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:38 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I agree with sam about the old Honda Insight.
- Leaky roof on every car
- Terrible hybrid battery management, absolutely guaranteed to kill the battery
-- The batt management is bad in so many ways, it's almost comical
-- Car is unsuitable for 95% of drivers if the battery dies
- Faulty design of EGR valve (such a simple part yet they got it wrong!)
- Ground straps always break for some reason??
- Lower engine mounts begin to fail at only 100k due to faulty design
- Spoiler has weak mounts which crack and break on every one of these cars
- Even the Trip and MPH//KMH buttons were designed poorly and fail on each car

All that said it's absolutely my favourite car of every type of car I've sat in or driven, including a Tesla Model X.
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Old 09-23-2018, 12:48 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Yugo. As a Fiat 128 it was a popular car, but this Polish version sold in the US was a horrible car and a dismal failure. They made a "sport" version labeled the Yugo GY, as in, gee why would anyone actually pay even more money for one of those awful things.

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Bricklin. I worked as a mechanic at a dealer who sold these, briefly, when they were new. The reputation is deserved.

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Old 09-23-2018, 01:17 PM   #48 (permalink)
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What do you think is the most failed car in design?
The First Generation Corvair's rear swing axle.

The Ford Pinto gas tank. (Had one, and survived!)
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Old 09-23-2018, 01:55 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Yugo was produced by the Czech company Zastava. The Polish product looks like this:


It was not popular in Poland, the Fiat 127 was popular.
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Old 09-23-2018, 07:00 PM   #50 (permalink)
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The First Generation Corvair's rear swing axle.

The Ford Pinto gas tank. (Had one, and survived!)
Had three different Pintos (coupe 1.6L; two S/W's 2.0L, 2.3L) and never had any problems, even when wife was rear-ended (no fire!).

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