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Old 05-28-2019, 05:57 PM   #81 (permalink)
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An auto assembly line worker probably makes more like $25-31/hr straight up. Ford pays on average $40,000/yr per active employee on health care benefits, $18.92/hr! The average company is $2/hr the average union job is $4/hr. They get 14 holiday days and 4 weeks paid vacation in addition to paid sick leave. A healthy 401k sharing program too. I'm sure when there is hiring at the plants, they get a line out the door of qualified applicants.....
It depends on more than the wage. The company I work for has a plant today that we can't fully staff. The starting pay is good but the plant is 1 hour from any major population center. That commute combined with the fact that the new hires know that they will be the first out the door in the next downturn means we are hiring just about anyone with a pulse and who can pass a drug test. That is what happens in an economy with 4% unemployment.

Also, the $40K a year per employee for healthcare if an statistic that is true but taken out of context. That $40K a year is for all current employees AND all their retirees. Ford, GM, and Chrysler have way more retirees than the newer companies that started building plants in the 80's.

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Old 05-28-2019, 11:58 PM   #82 (permalink)
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The number is for current and retirees but where else do retired workers continue to receive company paid full health benefits? Even with retired government workers, you may be able to stay on the plans but you have to pay the full bill, there is no portion paid by the government. Even including retirees, that is a "Cadillac" plan for sure even if only 1/2 of that money is going to current workers.
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The number is for current and retirees but where else do retired workers continue to receive company paid full health benefits? Even with retired government workers, you may be able to stay on the plans but you have to pay the full bill, there is no portion paid by the government. Even including retirees, that is a "Cadillac" plan for sure even if only 1/2 of that money is going to current workers.
My mother is a retired public school teacher. She has health insurance for life and only pays a small portion of the total premium.

My company pays 100% of the premium for my health insurance. Last year it was $15,936 for a Blue Cross / Blue Shield family policy. (How much a company paid for your insurance in on your W2 now)
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My mother is a retired public school teacher. She has health insurance for life and only pays a small portion of the total premium.

My company pays 100% of the premium for my health insurance. Last year it was $15,936 for a Blue Cross / Blue Shield family policy. (How much a company paid for your insurance in on your W2 now)
You are a current employee (although I guarantee that $15,936 is a much higher number for a Ford worker) and yes, many states have great benefits for retirees also so they can pretend they pay similar to the private sector. California for one is almost ridiculous.
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It is hard to get past talking points and deal in economic data. Profit margins, labor costs, tax brackets can vary by industry and state. Marxists take as an article of faith that private property is criminal. Labor unions historically assumed corporate revenues are infinite. In a market economy price competition is keen to retain market share. What has not been noticed by the general popular discussion is the profound effect the Quality Revolution has had on the world economy in the the last 50 years. See W Edwards Deming, Philip Crosby, and Peter Drucker.
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They decreased the fee from $1,000 down to $100.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...ion-fee-to-100
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They decreased the fee from $1,000 down to $100.

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It's quite the bargain for most EV drivers. If you drive more than something like 5,000 miles, then you're ahead by paying the $100 fee than paying the road taxes (gasoline tax) driving an ICE vehicle.

I had a feeling more reasonable fees would be implemented.

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