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Old 11-16-2012, 09:53 AM   This thread is in the EcoModder Project Library | #1 (permalink)
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2006 Kia Sportage ecomodding begins...

I recently retired the 2002 Q45 Sport w/IMPUL bodykit.

I got my daughter's 2006 Kia Sportage EX V6 FWD w/100,000 miles in pristine condition.

Have several mods to start:
1. Mounting Garmn GPS and ScangaugeII
2. upsizing tires
3. Front grill block
4. Underbelly pan
5. concidering swapping out the tranny for an Optima tranny w/ a 3.77 gear.
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Here is an exchange I had with someone on the Kia Sportage forum:
I just inherited a 2006 Sportage EX V6 FWD from my daughter. It is in GREAT condition and I plan on driving it for awhile.
I just put 273,000 on a 2002 Infiniti Q45 Sport.
I am interested in getting better mileage.
I am on ecomodder.com and increased the mpg on the Q45 from 22mpg on the road to 30mpg.
The Q45 had a 2.76 rear ratio and that helped w/ the 5 speed auto w/ od.

Does anyone know if Kia made a 5 speed automatic transmission that would bolt into the 2.7V6?
I realize that a standard would be optimal, but I want to keep the automatic. (For simplicity)
Did Kia come uot with a 5 speed Auto in later yrs?

I will start a thread on improving mpg. The most important aspect of improved mpg is 'improving the nut behind the wheel'.

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The transmission used in the kia is an F4A42-2 and it only came in 4 forward gears and one reverse. It was not changed until the new sportage was released. With this change came a new transmission.

The F4A42-2 is used in a number of kia and hyundai vehicles, all 4 speed. Interestingly though, the final drive ratio from the optima (3.770) is less than the Kia (4.042 for FWD and 4.407 for 4WD). In my father-in-law's Optima, he sits on 2000rpm at 100kmh whereas I sit on 2500rpm at 100 kph (4WD for me).

You could swap these transmissions and thus have lower engine rpm for a higher speed, but I am not sure how the transmission control module will like it being a different final drive ratio.
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tysin,
Thank you sooo much for that information.
Infiniti uses the 2002 Q45 tranny in a lot of models also. unfourtunately, they all had the same ratios because it was a rear wheel drive tranny and the changes where made at the rear end.
They 02 Q45 had a 2.76 reaR ratio which was conduceive for better mileage.


My next question is will the lower ratioed tranny effect the ecu.
I am hopping someone here can help with this question. Someone told me that the might be two sensors that read speed. on one the input saft and one on the output shaft.

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ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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#1) Made bracket today to mount the GPS and the scangauge.
I had grown accustomed to the location in the Q45 so I built a custom bracket (93 cents from Home depot).
will now be able to record data from the GPS and scangauge.
the mph seemed to be off 3%.

I will post some #s this week
Will also post pics .....
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ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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#2) tires- have some questions about the up sizing

#2)Tire question:
Currently running 235/60/16 on stock Alloy rim.
In an effort to reduce rpms at cruise (and increase gas mileage) I am looking at going up in tire size to a 235/70/16
comparision:
diameter 27.1".......28.9" (there is about 1.25 clearance so this will work)
tread width 8.1"........7.1" I lose an inch on the ground. Will I notice?
THe larger tire weighs about 2 lbs more.

Having come from a VERY well handling car to a FWD SUV, I am already aware of the stability issues with the suv bodystyle.
Will 1 inch increase really affect me from a safty issue?

Last question, the 70's seem to be more of a truck tire. Is the ride going to be that much rougher

Thanks in advance!
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MetroMPG: "Get the MPG gauge - it turns driving into a fuel & money saving game."

ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938

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Old 11-18-2012, 09:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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as far as tires its more in the tread when i had my 2nd gen explorer the ride was quite nice when the tires were of the non aggressive style, but the min I put some mud tires on the rear it didn't quite react like a truck yet, but you definitely could feel a difference. BTW the tire size on my EX was 235/75/15
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BTW the tire size on my EX was 235/75/15
Thanks for the advice on the treads!

You had a Kia Sportage EX (2005-210)?

that 235/75/15 is 28.9 in diameter but 7.7 on tread width.
That is a pretty good fit!

Makes me feel better about the 70's

Hope capri racer jumps in...he knows more about tires than we have forgotten!!
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ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the advice on the treads!

You had a Kia Sportage EX (2005-210)?

that 235/75/15 is 28.9 in diameter but 7.7 on tread width.
That is a pretty good fit!

Makes me feel better about the 70's

Hope capri racer jumps in...he knows more about tires than we have forgotten!!
communication error ex is past car EX is explorer
EDIT:
shoulda read your post again about EX being a model
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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came to work this morning w/ the scangauge working.
Water temp didnt get over 195 degrees.
Looks like a full grille block is in order!

I also filled up and will check my tank fill against the Kia's mpg screen and the scangauge at the end of the week.

THe trip odometer is pretty accurate against the gps...under by about 1/10. But will compare when I fill up.
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ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post247938
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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current look of interior:


used a piece of metal straping from the lumber area to wrap aroung the dash.
Mounted on the existing radio screw:




then scewed into the insde of the dash:



gauge trim panel back in place:


gps mounted:



Scangauge and gps





finished:

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ECO MODS PERFORMED:
First: ScangaugeII
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...eii-23306.html

Second: Grille Block
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...e-10912-2.html

Third: Full underbelly pan
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...q45-11402.html

Fourth: rear skirts and 30.4mpg on trip!
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sweet, that's a great idea for clean mounting, I like it.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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looking forward to seeing your bellypan! whats taking you so long

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