2013 Diesel Cruze?

[gone-ot]

...in USA, diesel fuel currently costs about 10-15% more than gasoline per gallon.

...in europe, however, it's the other way around, with gasoline costing LOTs more.

...I can remember not too long ago when diesel was like 89.9¢ to gasolines $1.249 price. That ratio 'flipped' after the last Oil Embargo...and, ever since, diesel fuel has been on the high-$ide, cost-wise.

...so-o-o-o, unless that diesel engine delivers 15% (or more) better fuel economy, it's not going to be a co$t effective vehicle, which (using the ECO Cruze FE as reference) means it had better yield at least 48-50 mpg or it'll become just another GM diesel-soaked albatross!

[EdKiefer]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

...in USA, diesel fuel currently costs about 10-15% more than gasoline per gallon.

...in europe, however, it's the other way around, with gasoline costing LOTs more.

...I can remember not too long ago when diesel was like 89.9¢ to gasolines $1.249 price. That ratio 'flipped' after the last Oil Embargo...and, ever since, diesel fuel has been on the high-$ide, cost-wise.

...so-o-o-o, unless that diesel engine delivers 15% (or more) better fuel economy, it's not going to be a co$t effective vehicle, which (using the ECO Cruze FE as reference) means it had better yield at least 48-50 mpg or it'll become just another GM diesel-soaked albatross!

right, in Europe its the opposite , diesel is everywhere and with different grades too .
I was in Germany back around 2005 and rented a VW stationwagen ,it had if memory right 2.0TDI . I was very impressed with the car, quite, powerful (at least up to around 4k rpm) and had 6 speed manual .I forgot what mpg we got but remember high 30"s showing in the dash display .

[cleanspeed1]

If they quit messing around and get the calibration that yields 55 mpg or better, I could see the diesel doing well. But they are going to neuter that sucker.

[99metro]

The tax the !@#$% out of diesel now. BUT since the Cruze is the best selling car... I guess they see this as an opportunity to put a diesel in it and "see" what happens. I suspect they won't be able to keep them on the dealer lots. I also suspect that it could hit 50+ depending on the fuel programming and tranny brains. We'll see how much $$$$ they tack on for the diesel option.

By daughter just bought a 2011 Cruze. She loves it. Must appeal to the kids pretty well.

[Diesel_Dave]

Just to follow up on my last post. The only 1/2-ton diesel project I'm aware of that hasn't been canceled is by Nissan, which is looking at a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder Cummins. The goal is to get an EPA rating of 28 mpg (combined):

Cummins developing 28-mpg 2.8-liter 4-cylinder diesel for Nissan Titan — Autoblog Green

[gone-ot]

GM-India just launched their "BEAT" vehicle with a 1.0L turbo diesel engine.

Just imagine a one-liter soda bottle powering that car!

[cleanspeed1]

Originally Posted by Diesel_Dave

Just to follow up on my last post. The only 1/2-ton diesel project I'm aware of that hasn't been canceled is by Nissan, which is looking at a 2.8-liter 4-cylinder Cummins. The goal is to get an EPA rating of 28 mpg (combined):

Cummins developing 28-mpg 2.8-liter 4-cylinder diesel for Nissan Titan — Autoblog Green

They've had half ton GM and Ford diesels in South America for years, along with the mini pickups. Just can't get them here.

[tjts1]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

GM-India just launched their "BEAT" vehicle with a 1.0L turbo diesel engine.

Just imagine a one-liter soda bottle powering that car!

I wouldn't call that 'powering' exactly.

[cfg83]

Old Tele man -

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

GM-India just launched their "BEAT" vehicle with a 1.0L turbo diesel engine.

Just imagine a one-liter soda bottle powering that car!

Me caveman, me not understand. Is soda-bottle a euphemism for diesel?

CarloSW2

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by cfg83

Old Tele man -



Me caveman, me not understand. Is soda-bottle a euphemism for diesel?

CarloSW2

...both only have one LITER volumes of fizz.

...as in fizzle.