2013 Diesel Cruze?

[cleanspeed1]

Put one liter bottle in engine compartment.

Compare size to engine's swept volume.

DING!

<lightbulb shines above head>

[Fr3AkAzOiD]

Ok, so they are saying highway mpg would be about the same but do diesels get any better city mpg?

[roosterk0031]

Does the diesel come with the Eco package, non Eco Cruze's are rated at 36mpg w/1.4 or 35 with 1.8, so 41mpg diesel is 14% better.

[cfg83]

roosterk0031 -

Originally Posted by roosterk0031

Does the diesel come with the Eco package, non Eco Cruze's are rated at 36mpg w/1.4 or 35 with 1.8, so 41mpg diesel is 14% better.

Hmmmmm, at first I thought that sounds like the difference in energy content, since diesel has about 16% more BTU per gallon than gasoline :

Diesel Vs. Gasoline Fuel Economy | eHow.com

The fundamental energy content of diesel fuel contains more energy than the same amount of gasoline. According to Truck Trend, a gallon of diesel fuel contains 147,000 British Thermal Units (BTU) of energy. Gasoline contains about 125,000 BTU of energy per gallon. In addition, diesel engines use a more efficient injection method that results in even more fuel consumption and higher mileage.

But now I think I am wrong. I think that's *only* relevant if the engines are the same displacement.

CarloSW2

[gone-ot]

28/42 mpg = 2011 Cruze Eco with 6-speed manual.
26/37 mpg = 2011 Cruze Eco with 6-speed automatic.

28/42 mpg = 2012 Cruse Eco with 6-speed manual.
28/39 mpg = 2012 Cruze Eco with 6-speed automatic.

...the bump-up in mpg occurs only for the Eco and LTZ with 6-speed automatic transmissions because their axle ratios have been reduced from 3.87:1 down to 3.53:1 for better (~+5%) milage.

...this new 3.53:1 axle is also optional on the 2LT with the 6-speed automatic transmission.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

28/42 mpg = 2011 Cruze Eco with 6-speed

...the bump-up in mpg occurs only for the Eco and LTZ with 6-speed automatic transmissions because their axle ratios have been reduced from 3.87:1 down to 3.53:1 for better (~+5%) milage.

...this new 3.53:1 axle is also optional on the 2LT with the 6-speed automatic transmission.

Just out of curiosity and because I have no plans on trading in my Cobalt, is the new Cruze platform motor and components drop in replacements in a Cobalt? I know GM loves to keep XMSN and other items standard for 10+ years at a time.

The thing that troubles me is that the final drive on the Cruze actually looks lower than my Cobalt with a 5sp, is this correct? I would like to steel a junkyard 6 cruze xmsn but can't justify it if
1. it won't fit
2. Its lower geared.

I also wonder on Aero CD/CDA Cruze Vrs Cobalt, both are rather poor from what I remember.

[Fr3AkAzOiD]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Just out of curiosity and because I have no plans on trading in my Cobalt, is the new Cruze platform motor and components drop in replacements in a Cobalt? I know GM loves to keep XMSN and other items standard for 10+ years at a time.

The thing that troubles me is that the final drive on the Cruze actually looks lower than my Cobalt with a 5sp, is this correct? I would like to steel a junkyard 6 cruze xmsn but can't justify it if
1. it won't fit
2. Its lower geared.

I also wonder on Aero CD/CDA Cruze Vrs Cobalt, both are rather poor from what I remember.

I had the same thoughs. I don't think they would be a simple drop in fit since the Cruze is built of a pre existing Euro platfom.

Now that doesn't mean that it isn't possible. Another thing is the 1.4 turbo and 6 speed should be in the Aveo replacement which is the Sonic if I remember correctly.
I'd hold off to see who puts in the lowest gear ratios in, also the Sonic should be a good $5,000 cheaper new so a junkyard find a few years down the road shouldn't kill you.

Also I think the Cobalt (two door) is 2 or 3 hundred pounds lighter then the Cruze so even if CD is the same the lighter weight should give you better gas milage.

[Revv]

I would really be interested if they brought more diesels across the ocean to here, but the government would probably just ruin them. I mean look at the newer VW Diesels, they still get decent mileage but there is a considerable difference compared to the older models of the same car. A hybrid diesel would be interesting but it would be complicated to have it work like the prius hybrid. It would have to be more like the honda CRZ. The difference is that in the prius the engine shuts off for coasting but in the CRZ both motor and engine are always on helping each other. Plus like others said to justify the diesel the mileage would have to be marginally better than similar sized gasoline cars.

[gone-ot]

...bet it's because of the "worm" the Mexicans put in the Gas Tank of those models (wink,wink)!

...a diesel "wooly" worm.

[Daox]

Here is a little bit more info on the diesel cruze... not much though. Sounds like they won't be going for the ultimate mileage machine here, but more of a 'semi-sporty yet thrifty at the pump' kind of car.

2014 Chevrolet Cruze Diesel: More Details Released By GM

Boiled down, here's what Chevrolet says about the diesel Cruze model:

•TIMING: It will be "introduced in 2013," which likely means it'll be a 2014 model
•ENGINE SIZE: 2.0 liters (same as the European model)
•OUTPUTS: Not discussed
•ENGINEERING: Done jointly by engine designers in Pontiac, Michigan; GM's diesel specialists in Torino, Italy; and vehicle engineers in Russelsheim, Germany
•APPEARANCE: It will be "difficult to discern" any difference on the outside between diesel and gasoline engines
•HOPED-FOR RESULT: "Cruze [drivers will get] great quality, torque and fuel economy in a car that’s both fun to drive and practical at the pump," in the words of diesel assistant chief engineer Mike Siegrist.