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Old 07-09-2013, 07:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Chevy needs 5.5 liters to make 400 hp, NA.
Chrysler needs 8.4 to make 500, NA.
Ford needs 5.0 to make 420, NA.

All being premium fuel. Although, on cars.com, they are showing the 8.4 liter is pushing 640 hp, MUCH better than the 499 the old 8.1 was doing, and I only see a 6.2 listed for the Corvette, with 450 or 460. The GT is still at 420. Interesting, to me.

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Isn't there usually an inverse relationship between horsepower and mileage?

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Corvette Stingray Most Efficient Sports Car on the Market


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I think power comes into play, the 86 GT has less than half the HP of the Corvette, it should be seeing better than 32. 400+ gets 31, 180 gets 32?

TT and Z4 are both not near as much power- I wouldn't classify them as a true sports car, like the base Camaro, Mustang, Challenger. They are sports cars, but they aren't the sportiest- sporty? lol, thats what I always call it. I, personally, try to reserve sports to Corvettes, GT500s, Viper, that range as true sports cars. Though, the Viper is expensive for a sports car, but its definitely not a super/hyper car...

My thoughts may not be clear, but the vehicles you mentioned (other than the Porsche, not sure about it) are not nearly as powerful while just edging out the fuel economy.
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My thoughts may not be clear, but the vehicles you mentioned (other than the Porsche, not sure about it) are not nearly as powerful while just edging out the fuel economy.
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TT and Z4 are both not near as much power- I wouldn't classify them as a true sports car, like the base Camaro, Mustang, Challenger. They are sports cars, but they aren't the sportiest- sporty? lol, thats what I always call it. I, personally, try to reserve sports to Corvettes, GT500s, Viper, that range as true sports cars. Though, the Viper is expensive for a sports car, but its definitely not a super/hyper car...
How is a Z4 or a TT not a sports car but a Challenger is? The Challenger is just a 2 ton rebodied late 90s Mercedes E class and the Mustang has a live axle rear suspension off a pickup truck. These are not sports cars by any stretch of the imagination.
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My thoughts may not be clear, but the vehicles you mentioned (other than the Porsche, not sure about it) are not nearly as powerful while just edging out the fuel economy.
Horsepower does not make a sports car. The claim was that the Corvette is the most fuel efficient sports car on the market. Thats clearly not true.

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Maybe a tad off topic, but id opt for a STI or EVO, M3/M5 anyday... especially for the price these days, you just cant beat the versatility and "real world" performance.. Already been proven to get 40mpg out of a Subi... I could still get away with a decent sup'd Mini Cooper S with a few basic mods and still get 30mpg and still have allot less wobely plastic body work on all..

EDIT: +1 on the GT500, and ill throw in the BOSS 302 version that my local dealer has with a 5 link kit in place already...
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EDIT: +1 on the GT500, and ill throw in the BOSS 302 version that my local dealer has with a 5 link kit in place already...
OHHHH 5 link. That would be impressive in 1968.
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Corvette Stingray Most Efficient Sports Car on the Market

I note that you trimmed off the second half of that statement:
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2014 model unmatched in combo of 455 hp and EPA-estimated 29 mpg highway
Which is, in fact, accurate to the best of my knowledge.

Making bold, slightly misleading statements is standard fare for marketing departments everywhere, this really isn't anything to get all worked up about. But the fact is, the Corvette s a fantastic sports car with a large, powerful engine that achieves very impressive fuel economy.

As for what cars are and are not sports cars... Simply having a live axle doesn't disqualify a car in my book. To me, a "sports car" must be good at driving on a road coarse, and its performance there defines it more than what specific design criteria was met. I would be surprised if there is any stock, production car that can post faster lap times at the Nurburgring that will use less gas on the drive home.
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As for what cars are and are not sports cars... Simply having a live axle doesn't disqualify a car in my book.
The Mustang is either a muscle car, rental car or secretary's car depending on who you ask. Its never been a sports car.
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To me, a "sports car" must be good at driving on a road coarse, and its performance there defines it more than what specific design criteria was met. I would be surprised if there is any stock, production car that can post faster lap times at the Nurburgring that will use less gas on the drive home.
Porsche 918
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20 mile EV range.

Anyway to slice it, the GM claim is bogus.


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