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Old 02-22-2014, 07:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Also posted on the other site. A bit past 200k, the Mirage becomes the better choice, and at 250k, the Mirage keeps bee's knees status while the Spark edges out the Micra.

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Old 02-22-2014, 07:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It would be interesting to put together an automatic transmission comparison too (since most people will choose that). I suspect despite the Micra's big purchase price advantage, it will fall behind the Mirage and possibly the Spark in that scenario (which, ironically are equipped with CVT's made by Nissan's JATCO enterprise).
Shouldn't be an issue! I just have some more work around the house and online before I get it wrapped up.
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Manual trans is not an issue with me. I drive the 5 speed on the hi-way 99% of the time, so when I get stuck in traffic, I know it won't last forever.
The good thing about a cheap car, 2-3 years down the road, it will be even cheaper, used.
I can only imagine the engine transplants on the second hand ones.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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By MetroMPGs request, the Auto/CVT:





MPG is not the estimated average, I took Highway + City and divided by 2. This also does not take into account the added weight of the Auto/CVT.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:08 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If the Micra comes to the states do you think it will have AC standard?

Seem not quite apples to apples, and your Mirage price is US, Micra is Canada. Mirage Canada is 12,498. CVT is $1200 option. Which would put it on top, I think maybe with the manual as well.
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In the States, I think AC would be standard, like it is in the Mirage.

Although, if I lived in the States, I'd prefer it to be optional. A lot of people in the northern part of the country don't necessarily need it. Right now I'm sitting about 2 miles from upper New York State. I don't think it's that much warmer down there.
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I did this based in the US, not in Canada. All prices are US, and USD, other than the Micra, which is Canadian USD. I could re run it, but I was thinking most of the users here are in the US.

Darin, do you want me to rerun with Canadian prices and Canadian fuel economy numbers?
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If you want to. Or if you want to send me the file, I'll do up a Canadian version with Metric units and Canadian prices. darin at ecomodder.com. Whatever you like.
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I did get your message on MF.com (lol), sent you the request via e-mail. I find formulas fun and interesting, but if you are not as familiar, feel free to ask. I feel like I don't have as much to contribute, and it's nice to be able to add value.
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