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Old 01-05-2020, 12:29 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Not necessarily; plenty of production cars use both, like this 2019 Volt:





Toyota's website only says "electric all-wheel drive" or something similar, but this article says one electric motor at the rear, similar to the Prius AWD-e setup.
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Belly is totally smooth as much as possible from the factory. Must say they did a good job on that front.

I do know that they are trying to make it more off road capable than previous iterations, and thus have raised it up in the air quite a bit. Thats where I'm thinking of doing an air dam like posted earlier on the Chevy Volt might be helpful. I was thinking of adding exactly that where it comes down 90 degrees from the edge to create a square edge. And I thought with it coming out in front of the tire some, it would provide a good air blocking effect to it. Between that and the rear wheel skirts, I'm hoping that might help it.

Found a listing with better pictures. Hope these help some.

Thinking about it, I could possibly put an angled piece from the front edge back to the bumper to eliminate any downforce. Thoughts?
that is wrong

this is a Real air dam


that is just a phony baloney ricer thing




I'm going to lower it all the way to the ground with air dams all the way around with Rubber so it's super flexible

the under body is too much of a mess it's call cutting a corner. :P also possibly a rear side skirt as well plus the tail gate mod


it should net me (35MPG hyw /39MPG city or so) (can sit in 4v DFCO longer)..



for some of the trip 35% i camped out behind a 18wheeler netted 27MPG..

while normally i can only get 24.5 by my self on the same route


if i did 100% of a trip behind a 18wheeler it can be in the 40-45MPG range ..

the vortex the 18wheeler makes allows me to get into 4v DFCO and stay in that mode or at lest Lean burn mode (it's equipped with PWM injectors) and FREE regeneration! as well.. to top it off!
there is a sweet spot behind it where you get free pull


by just aerodynamics alone, as it makes a vacuum..

just watch out some 18wheelers don't have this vacuum effect and could cost you in wasted fuel...


The V formation also works 'vortex surfing' to the left (prefered)or right lane of the trailer 1-2 car lengths behind does the job




this also helps out the trucker netting him better MPG as you become his boat tail. it's a win win!
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I prefer trucks wth a full width half height load; less buffeting than a box van.
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I think it's a good foundation for some side plates to form air curtains. Think time attack bodywork. The lip is too small to add much downforce, but will prevent the center from deforming.
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I think it's a good foundation for some side plates to form air curtains. Think time attack bodywork. The lip is too small to add much downforce, but will prevent the center from deforming.
Thank you. That's really the only think I was after with this. I know it's a little ricer-ish. But, I thought it kinda added to it a little. Idk. But, I thought it would give a good foundation to build off of.

Does anyone have some suggestions to how I could fabricate functional front wheel spats? I know that it has the tiniest bit of one stock trying to preserve ground clearance. So, that leads me to think Toyota knows it could help but was limited with the want for ground clearance.
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Does anyone have some suggestions to how I could fabricate functional front wheel spats? I know that it has the tiniest bit of one stock trying to preserve ground clearance. So, that leads me to think Toyota knows it could help but was limited with the want for ground clearance.
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still no part numbers ? at lest put the part numbers if your going to be posting this stuff just in case others want such parts
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still no part numbers ? at lest put the part numbers if your going to be posting this stuff just in case others want such parts
Google is your friend. I've posted the C-Max part numbers here before (search this site), maybe even with hyperlinks to buy them.
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Any recommendation to how far from the ground to make them? Should I try tying them into the front air dam?
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That's hard to say. I modeled mine on the Cadillac CT6 Hybrid, which has large rubber wheel strakes:



They sit ~60mm above the ground, so I made mine 60mm high too.
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that is wrong

this is a Real air dam


that is just a phony baloney ricer thing




I'm going to lower it all the way to the ground with air dams all the way around with Rubber so it's super flexible

the under body is too much of a mess it's call cutting a corner. :P also possibly a rear side skirt as well plus the tail gate mod


it should net me (35MPG hyw /39MPG city or so) (can sit in 4v DFCO longer)..



for some of the trip 35% i camped out behind a 18wheeler netted 27MPG..

while normally i can only get 24.5 by my self on the same route


if i did 100% of a trip behind a 18wheeler it can be in the 40-45MPG range ..

the vortex the 18wheeler makes allows me to get into 4v DFCO and stay in that mode or at lest Lean burn mode (it's equipped with PWM injectors) and FREE regeneration! as well.. to top it off!
there is a sweet spot behind it where you get free pull


by just aerodynamics alone, as it makes a vacuum..

just watch out some 18wheelers don't have this vacuum effect and could cost you in wasted fuel...


The V formation also works 'vortex surfing' to the left (prefered)or right lane of the trailer 1-2 car lengths behind does the job




this also helps out the trucker netting him better MPG as you become his boat tail. it's a win win!
Many years ago,at my aunt's home,I got to see an episode of Myth-Busters in which they drafted an 18-wheeler with a Chrysler sedan,indicating 42-mpg at close-quarters.Just be careful!

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