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Old 10-17-2019, 01:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2021 Toyota Mirai

Whoa! The 2021 Toyota Mirai FCEV has thrown out its quirky/ugly design and was completely redesigned with a handsome and luxurious styling. The second-generation of the hydrogen-fuel cell-powered sedan has a 30% increase in range, longer, wider and can seat five. Sharing its platform with the Lexus LS sedan and LC coupe, it looks like it is rear drive. When it goes on sale late next year, the 2021 Mirai will probably still be limited to the California market and will be going to market as a premium luxury market. https://www.thedrive.com/news/30283/...ve-performance

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Old 10-17-2019, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That's a good looking car. And rwd!
Looks pricey, though.
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botsapper is back!

And, wow - that's a transformation. If they do this, the Honda Clarity will win the annual ugliest alternative energy powertrain contest by default!

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Sharing its platform with the Lexus LS sedan and LC coupe...
Aha! That's why it looked familiar.
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Old 10-17-2019, 10:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its design is not really my cup of tea, but not so bad at all. I'd still not hold my breath for hydrigen-powered cars anyway...
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It looks much better - so after it fails, they can't blame the looks, at least.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It looks much better - so after it fails, they can't blame the looks, at least.
The existing Mirai is a Lexus HS ?

At $5000 almost worth buying one for EV conversion or cng + ice conversion
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It's fossil fuel free as long as you ignore that hydrogen is made from natural gas.
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"It's fossil fuel free as long as you ignore that hydrogen is made from natural gas."

That too can change...

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As long as natural gas is $5 per therm no one is going to use anything but natural gas to make hydrogen.

Hydrogen from anything but oil or natural gas will likely cost at least twice as much as gasoline burned in a hybrid and more than 10x that of an electric.

As soon as people find out how much it's going to cost, hydrogen dies.
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Is it just me, or does the front seem too long? Feels almost like a Viper, but without a V10 under the hood. Overall looks are pretty good, just too long of a snout.

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