05-16-2022, 06:16 PM
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Cx9 - '18 Mazda CX9 Grand Touring 90 day: 31.41 mpg (US) Prius - '10 Toyota Prius III 90 day: 57.8 mpg (US) Tundra - '00 Tundra V6 long bed base work truck 90 day: 19.4 mpg (US)
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On the gen3 prius, Eco mode mostly just makes the accelerator pedal spongy but it also changes the A/C slightly (automatically puts it on recirculate & lowers the maximum fan speed)
On 1980s Toyotas, the ECON button would cycle the A/C compressor off more often, especially under higher loads.
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05-16-2022, 07:59 PM
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I don't know how the 2013 Avalon Hybrid compares to the Gen 3 Prius, but mine also changes how the heater works in the winter too. Basically it doesn't come on until higher engine temperatures, and even then it keeps the fan slow until the engine gets plenty warm. Cruising down the highway it runs full blast once warm enough, but around town you get less heat. I guess it does that to keep the engine warmer since if it gets too cold it starts back up again.
So less heat in the winter and less A/C in the summer and a more spongy throttle in the Avalon.
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05-20-2022, 06:43 PM
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I'm still on the first tank, 48.7 mpg average, >1/4 tank left, 500 miles in, 170 mi to go.
I'm finding the performance varies greatly, depending on how much of my trip needs to be on the gasoline engine. My wife's driving seems to leave the truck with a fully charged battery, and I was able to get to work at 68 mpg this morning after her driving yesterday. But my return trip ran on way more petrol—probably also because I was running the A/C—resulting in 38 mpg. That's an average of 53 mpg for the day, which was about where our collective average was before the rains.
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05-20-2022, 10:53 PM
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I'm also still on my first tank, sitting at 492 miles with a little over an eighth of a tank left and reading 41.2 on the gauge. I feel pretty good about the mpg since I use it every weekend to tow my lawn trailer, I never would have dreamed I'd have a truck I'm getting 40 mpg and over 500 miles a tank in! The AC has been on (in eco mode) since the day I drove it off the lot
One of these days I'll eventually need to fill the tank and will update my fuel log
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05-25-2022, 10:14 PM
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At 93 miles to empty, I'm getting pretty close to the fuel level I started with when I received the truck. With all the rain and my wife's long-distance drives, the law of large numbers is converging to 48.6 mpg (over 572 miles). So a ball-park tank range for my mixed driving is ~650 miles. It looks like I'll be fueling up once a month or so. Can't say I'm disappointed!
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05-25-2022, 10:58 PM
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I'm getting worse than that in my Avalon hybrid. I can't seem to break the 41mpg barrier on average. Sure, I can get over 90mpg in a single trip if I hypermile. But I feel quite weird as I've always written off pickups and SUV's but now I might consider a vehicle like this.
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05-27-2022, 04:44 PM
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Ever since I figured out how to get ~50 mpg in my stock 2005 Honda Civic LX, hypermiling has been a way of life for me. Adapting those techniques to the Maverick is what allowed me to start high. Favor engine-off-coasting, never brake, and never, ever trust a stale green light! And those short 90 mpg trips are little wins that raise the average—even if only by a little.
I've had to relearn how to brake in the Maverick. In both of my Civics (non-hybrid + hybrid) I learned to brake early and lightly. But the Maverick prefers increasing braking as I slow to maintain moderate charging. So I find myself uncomfortably braking more at the last minute—but still able to stop well short of where I intended.
One of the useful features of the Maverick Eco Mode is it forces the user to push the accelerator harder to engage the clutch and allow higher RPMs (which eat far more petrol). So I've been favoring ~20-30% power during acceleration bursts, which seems to keep the engine fully in gear. We'll see if this makes a difference...
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05-27-2022, 06:16 PM
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Man you're killing it, awesome job! Can't wait to see your first tank results
I haven't had time to really learn to hypermile mine yet and I've driven it a lot harder than I thought I would need to, but even then I'm getting around 40 mpg which still makes me shake my head since . . . you know . . . it's a truck!
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05-28-2022, 08:39 AM
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While it's easy for me to brag about the short 80 and 90 mpg jaunts (like yesterday's trip to the dump), I've yet to have any trip below the mid-30's, even in heavy rains. Typical is high 40's to high 60's, but those rainy weeks really brought down the average.
I'm getting close to having to fuel up. My wife's long excursion yesterday morning actually brought the average up to 48.9! But now I'm at 39 miles to empty. There is no low fuel lamp—instead, it's another startup message you have to clear with "OK".
I'll try to get a picture of the final standings at fillup…
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05-28-2022, 02:02 PM
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The internet tells me the truck has a 13.8 gallon fuel tank. Make note of how much it took to fill up. Subtract that amount from 13.8 and that should tell you how much fuel was remaining (so you have an idea of how accurate the distance to empty is). Every vehicle I've driven has been extremely conservative on fuel warning lights and distance to empty estimates. The Prius low fuel light would come on when there was still 2 gallons of fuel left, meaning 100 miles of range.
Anyhow, those MPG figures are insane. I don't think I could draft behind a semi in my 2.4L Acura at 60 MPH and get that good of fuel economy. My car is extremely aerodynamic too.
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