10-06-2020, 06:45 PM
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212cc engine swap gives a new life to an old Honda Insight.
its been a while since I last posted.
I built a 212cc powered Honda Insight for a video series I'm working on. The primary objective of this project is to get the car to go 50 miles per hour...Its a challenge but I think it can be done.
The fuel economy aspect of the project was never considered and was totally overlooked.... until recently.
Anyway, I figured this group would get a kick out of the videos...
Here is the fuel economy video, there are also a number of other videos on the car as well.
https://youtu.be/w0zLfouT9kc
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10-06-2020, 10:21 PM
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Fun. I won't spoil the reveal, but I am sure that, at the speeds you were driving and with the road conditions you enjoyed, many an ecomodder driver could have beaten the 212cc fuel economy in a stock Gen1 Insight with ease.
EDIT: It would go faster stock as well.
What's the story with this project?
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See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.
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10-06-2020, 10:22 PM
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Cool project! Any future plans with the car?
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10-07-2020, 02:23 AM
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I want to do a similar (temporary) project in my mercury. I actually already bought a 12 hp opposed twin for it too. I haven't watched all the videos yet so you might have already answered it, but why the CVT? I was thinking I could just do a simple chain reduction plus the metro 5 spd and be fine. I didn't do any calculation or anything, just my hunch.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6s...LulDUQ8HMj5VKA
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10-07-2020, 02:36 AM
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Fun. I won't spoil the reveal, but I am sure that, at the speeds you were driving and with the road conditions you enjoyed, many an ecomodder driver could have beaten the 212cc fuel economy in a stock Gen1 Insight with ease.
EDIT: It would go faster stock as well.
What's the story with this project?
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The purpose of this project is to demonstrate the possible engine modifications on the Harbor Freight 212cc predator engine. Instead of using a go kart to showcase the engine, we are using a car. The car is basically a big go kart.
While it is absolutely true a stock Insight will get better fuel economy, it was never our intention for this project to compete with a stock insight... it just worked out.
Anyway its just a jun project and I thought this group would enjoy the MPG video. There are another five videos that explain what what the project is about and what modifications were made.
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I want to do a similar (temporary) project in my mercury. I actually already bought a 12 hp opposed twin for it too. I haven't watched all the videos yet so you might have already answered it, but why the CVT? I was thinking I could just do a simple chain reduction plus the metro 5 spd and be fine. I didn't do any calculation or anything, just my hunch.
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The CVT 5 speed transmission we are using gives the car a big boost in acceleration. The CVT part of the transmission only works from a standing start. Once the car is moving the CVT stays in its High position, even when the transmission is shifted to another gear.
Is the CVT 100% necessary?... its hard to say.
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10-07-2020, 02:48 AM
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Cool project! Any future plans with the car?
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We plan on making another five videos demonstrating various engine modifications on the 212cc motor. After that we will switch to the 420 CC engine and do more experiments.
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10-07-2020, 05:14 PM
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This shows how cheap it could be to make a PHEV from a cheap electric car if it wasn't for emissions regs. and peoples need to have full power if they did something silly like emptied the whole battery.
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10-07-2020, 06:00 PM
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Good point. I hope this project inspires people to innovate.
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10-07-2020, 07:35 PM
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... its just a jun project and I thought this group would enjoy the MPG video. ...
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Absolutely did enjoy it, too. Good luck with the channel. I can see the production work going into these... stop motion and computer animation sequences, even!
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See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.
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