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Old 03-28-2019, 08:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It just sets the stage for a series of tug-of-wars once the pickup is released.

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"Moving" is far different from "towing." Musky is being hyperbolic, of course.

I can move 300,000 pounds. I could move even more than that. It's going to take an awful lot of rope and a buttload of pulleys, and I'm going to need some time. But I can move it. That doesn't mean it's going to be even slightly practical, but in the same vein as a Tesla product moving 300,000 pounds, I can move it.
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It just sets the stage for a series of tug-of-wars once the pickup is released.
Other factors being equal, the one with the higher hitch point wins.

Other factors being equal, the one with the higher curb weight wins.

Traction is what generally decides these things. If your setup tends to lift your opponent off the ground when you apply power, you win. If you have two equally matched vehicles in gearing, power, traction and geometry, it'll be a matter of luck.
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If they build it strong enough to actually pull 300,000 lbs (not terribly difficult) then they're covered. You'll never be able to actually put that kind of weight on a road and be dumb enough to use a pickup truck.

In effect, the limit becomes DOT regulations and local laws.

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Also, a lot of 2500 and 3500 owners get themselves in trouble by not using the lower of all ratings or by being heavier than the non-cdl limit. So, some trucks are already into this issue and the "ratings" are essentially meaningless for 99% of truck owners.
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I pulled a tree stump out of my garden with my old Nissan Almera.
It wasn't powerful enough to do so in straight pulling power, but slack the cable and give it a few jolts and out it came.
I bet that's what happened with the train too. Getting it moving is the trick, once it moves the friction is greatly reduced.

What will decide the pickup tug of war is per wheel thrust vectoring which the Tesla Pickup will no doubt use.
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Just because something weighs 300k lbs doesnt mean it requires that much tractive force. Recall the Toyota pickup towing a space shuttle in Palmdale down 15st W.

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