$4 A Gallon Gas Is Here!

[Gone4]

Originally Posted by dremd

I finally paid $4.00 a gallon
Filled up in Houston (direct link to oil company profits) for 4.02 a gallon. Saw as high as 4.50 and as low as 3.89 while in the Great state of Texas.
But on the + side I got 53.4 mpg :-)

That's odd to me. Last summer the gas prices in south east Houston were cheaper than back home in New England. We're around $3.20 now and I would've expected that area to be around the same or a tad cheaper. I wonder what changed in under a year.

[Arminius]

Just be thankful that you don't live in my state - The People's Republic of Wisconsin - where the added tax to every gallon is 49.5 cents. Sure, we're not the highest taxing state in the Union, yet, but we're trying harder every day.

[dremd]

From the "someone told me" files.
JP8 accounts for 10% of refinery output of distillates.

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by dremd

From the "someone told me" files.
JP8 accounts for 10% of refinery output of distillates.

Military uses about 440,000 barrels of oil a day.

The U.S. government, as a whole, consumes not quite 2% of all the liquid fuel that the entire U.S. economy uses in a given year. That translates into about 440,000 barrels of oil per day, or slightly more than the entire output of the oil field at Prudhoe Bay, when the pipelines are not shut down due to corrosion. Multiply by 365 days per year, and the U.S. government burns up about 160 million barrels of oil per year, at a cost of something over $10 billion at recent price levels

[Chris D.]

Originally Posted by Arminius

Just be thankful that you don't live in my state - The People's Republic of Wisconsin - where the added tax to every gallon is 49.5 cents. Sure, we're not the highest taxing state in the Union, yet, but we're trying harder every day.

Hows neighborly Minnesota looking for prices?

I'll be moving there in 2 months because Californias getting ridiclious

[Chris D.]

cost of living is out of hand.. Jobs are paying chicken scratch..
Unemployment rates within this county and ajacent countys are 18% - 20%
its overpopulated, roads are congested and at this rate, I'll never be able to afford to own my own home. Not to mention afford the yearly property taxes that are sky high..

Your going to see alot more people well into their 30's living with mom and dad out here..
That and theres no White Castle out here..

[mopo3]

So I just started to read this tread and I see a lot of questions/speculation about diesel vs. gasoline.

I work at an oil refinery in Houston as a process engineer. I work on a magnaformer unit, basically take strait chain carbons and make aromatics (rings) and then we removed the Benzene and Toluene to sell off to chemical plants (in case you didn't know this also lowers the production costs of gasoline).

As for diesel having more energy than gasoline here is the source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline

We can't make enough diesel right now, we only keep up with gasoline demand as it is still a core business, but if we could not be making gas and were able to use that capacity to run diesel, trust me we would.

what else...

1barrel (bbl) = 42 gallons

gasoline has less than 500 ppb (thats parts per billion) sulfur content
diesel has less than 450 ppm (parts per million) sulfur content
ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel) has less than 8 ppm sulfur content
The EPA is pushing lower Nox and is telling us to remove all benzene from gasoline, and we are expecting that no matter who gets elected that permits will be lowered. All of which will contribute to the margins made per bbl. Especially for some other refineries that are older/behind the technologies that will need to build new equipment to retro-fit older units to keep them legal. (as far as I'm concerned the more stuff done to regulate us = guaranteed job for me)

anything I left out I can look into further, just let me know.

[Funny]

I had a business trip a few weeks ago that took me to North-Eastern New York at $3.459 for regular . I just paid $3.099 tonight. I yearn for the days when I first began driving 8 1/2 years ago at $0.879 a gallon .

[Chris D.]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

At least winter doesn't last 6 months there

thats the least of my concerns, I like the cold..

[cfg83]

Chris D -

Originally Posted by Chris D.

cost of living is out of hand.. Jobs are paying chicken scratch..
Unemployment rates within this county and ajacent countys are 18% - 20%
its overpopulated, roads are congested and at this rate, I'll never be able to afford to own my own home. Not to mention afford the yearly property taxes that are sky high..

Your going to see alot more people well into their 30's living with mom and dad out here..
That and theres no White Castle out here..

That's my good friend's plan. He was raised in Colorado, so his goal is to go back. He works like a *dog* in California but he keeps falling behind. At least his job is portable.

But we still got Fatburger.

CarloSW2