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I agree, but, technically he stated:
Starting with a mid-size truck is a more daunting task so I stuck with an S10.
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Good catch, Mike. I was going on the thread title, forgetting that he had also asked about the smaller trucks.
Personally, I put them in categories based on usefulness to a certain perspective of person:
Weekend Warrior, S10, Ranger, pre'04 Tacoma
Worker's Friend, Dakota, Early (very early) Ram, post'04 Tacoma, Colorado (kinda), T100
Truck - Everything larger than a Worker's Friend, but smaller than true commercial vehicles. (Sorry, Jacob.)
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11-14-2009, 08:02 PM
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Everything larger than a Worker's Friend, but smaller than true commercial vehicles. (Sorry, Jacob.)
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I know. I only say its "technically" a commercial truck.
Its like 100lbs over the legal limit
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A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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11-14-2009, 09:14 PM
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Is that #100 over the lowest rating for capacity of a commercial vehicle, or is that #100 over the vehicle's curb weight?
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11-14-2009, 09:30 PM
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It's not about curb weight or capacity; it's about Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. A vehicle with a GVWR over 8500# is considered a "commercial" vehicle by many states, as well as by the EPA. His F-250, as mine, has a GVWR of 8600#.
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11-14-2009, 09:31 PM
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It's not about curb weight or capacity; it's about Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. A vehicle with a GVWR over 8500# is considered a "commercial" vehicle in many states. His F-250, as mine, has a GVWR of 8600#.
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That's what I meant by Capacity weight. If it's rated for #8600, that's it's "capacity" rating. You can't exceed that on a scale, or you start getting fined. You've answered my question, though.
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11-14-2009, 10:25 PM
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yep.
exactly.
and the GVWR is curb weight plus capacity
although the question made me curios and I just looked it up. Apparently CA doesn't go by weight as many other states do - but either way my registration says "commercial"
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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw
A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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11-14-2009, 10:41 PM
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From what my cousins and uncles who live in CA have told me, pickup trucks with an open bed (no tonneau cover, cap, or camper) have to be registered as "commercial" vehicles in CA. A camper, cap, or tonneau cover changes its status to "passenger vehicle". Makes perfect sense to me. NOT. 
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11-14-2009, 10:54 PM
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Close...
its flat beds or no beds, not standard pickup style beds
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Originally Posted by Piwoslaw
A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?
So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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11-14-2009, 10:59 PM
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its flat beds or no beds, not standard pickup style beds
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I stand corrected. Just 'cause they're family doesn't mean they're not FOS.
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You can't exceed that on a scale, or you start getting fined.
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Only if the state DOT catches you and you don't have a good excuse. They're much more interested in the over-80K# commercial trucks.
(and the "#" sign goes after the number of pounds; not before) 
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Originally Posted by elhigh
The presence of traffic is the single most complicating factor of hypermiling. I know what I'm going to do, it's contending with whatever the hell all these other people are going to do that makes things hard.
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11-14-2009, 11:59 PM
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I know where it goes, it's just a matter of the way I type... I count when I'm typing, and if I lose count at some point, things get messed up. Usually, symbols.
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