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Old 06-27-2008, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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a 50cc or electric mini car project?

Any one interested in trying to develop and enclosed 50cc car.. somthing that can be used in many climates yet still very efficient.. my goal would be 150mpg room for one and a small load , 50cc to stay with in most state codes for motorized bikes mopeds etc.. and 3 wheels to make it a motor cycle if licenced.. My state, like many, has a 50cc 30mph limit but then no licence is needed to drive it or plate needed on it.. and able to commute 30 miles in it.

low cost and DIY project..

Any one want to try to brainstorm on this..

Basically i was thinking like a enclosed trike kind of like the twike car or velo.. but assisted by either electric or very small gas engine for range.




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I was actually thinking of getting a Lifan 50cc engines, there a clone of the old Honda cub motors, with a built in transmission , they even have one model available with reverse and electric start.. there only about $250 and that would make a sweet power plant for a micro car. Full gears automatic clutch on them and reverse , a real 12v charging system and electric start.

With 50cc having gears is pretty important..

Now you could do a bicycle gearing system and have gears etc.. but the reverse and electric system and start would be rather complex to rig up , a ready made power plant like these small honda clones would make it far easier.

With a 30mph cruising speed a radio might be nice to have as my commute would be alot longer at 30 than 55.. not to mention headlights and brake lights and signal for saftly to truly make it a micro car , instead of a go kart
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here would be a good start for a design for the framework..:


Shell and frame design?


Non tadpole design.. simpler to design we dont need the lean function at sub 50mph speeds..
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I was actually thinking of getting a Lifan 50cc engines, there a clone of the old Honda cub motors, with a built in transmission , they even have one model available with reverse and electric start.. there only about $250 and that would make a sweet power plant for a micro car. Full gears automatic clutch on them and reverse , a real 12v charging system and electric start.

With 50cc having gears is pretty important..

Now you could do a bicycle gearing system and have gears etc.. but the reverse and electric system and start would be rather complex to rig up , a ready made power plant like these small honda clones would make it far easier.

With a 30mph cruising speed a radio might be nice to have as my commute would be alot longer at 30 than 55.. not to mention headlights and brake lights and signal for saftly to truly make it a micro car , instead of a go kart
Well, I have a 50cc motor and 2-speed cvt transmission already, , if you want it
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Well, I have a 50cc motor and 2-speed cvt transmission already, , if you want it
CVT is that from a scooter or somthing?
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how about a 3 wheeled VW 1L body style

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how about a 3 wheeled VW 1L body style

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Yeah the fighter pilot seating style lessens frontal area for sure

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