08-25-2008, 02:20 AM
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I tore down the used Swift tranny today and it needs a new 2nd gear not just a brass syncro ring. At least it is a 3.79 ratio, I paid $100.00 and bought it as a core. So I put the new bearing kit into the original tranny from this car today. I installed it tonight and replaced one outer boot. After the test drive I was amazed how quiet the car is now with the new bearings. The gear ratio is what I expected because I drove this car with the original 4 banger for a couple of months before the powertrain swap. I should have more fuel numbers by next weekend. This is a fun ongoing project for on old car guy like me.
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08-27-2008, 08:15 AM
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I have the same size tire 175/70-13. Mostly because I thought the wider tire would be better on the grooved concrete roads. The past 6 months they have repaved everything so this isn't a problem anymore. Back to 155/80-13 next time around.
8% increase of FE on a lowered car? That seems like a lot. If it's true, then I guess I'm overdue for a lowering. 5 mpg extra would be great. Mostly it is dry out here, but we do get snow. It's a gimme to drive the 4by when things get ugly. A lowered car would high-center too easy. I'd like to see the data (before/after) of someone who lowered their Metro.
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08-30-2008, 01:26 AM
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Today's fillup is 57 mpg
This is the first tank with the new tranny. The car went 200 miles on 3.5 gallons of e-10 Shell regular. I am very pleased, the car glides better with all the new bearings and the Mobil 1. I've contacted Mike @ 3tech about an xfi cam and 10 degree gear. I will send in a spare cam and gear as cores and await my new parts. I probably will run the car the way it is for a couple of weeks just to verify this increase. It is great to see the results of all your research and development. Thanks again fellow ecomodders. Cheers Andy
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08-30-2008, 02:34 AM
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I lowered my car years ago by cutting the springs, by about 1.75-2".
Couldn't detect any fe difference.
But I like the mod anyway. Corners with more confidence. Looks better. It's true though, about winters- I've gotten stuck where I think if it wasn't lowered I would have motored on through.
What's yer test methodology for arriving at 8%?
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08-31-2008, 08:47 PM
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I have been keeping detailed fuel records for the last 2000 miles. I fill at the same pump, at the same nozzle setting, never top off, and at the same time of day. This is as close as I can get with OBD 1 car. I think the increase jumped out at me because I had been trying a set of 195/50-15 tires and 7" wheels for two weeks prior dropping the car and going back to the 175/70-13's, now with the new trans, the first tank is at 57 mpg, I'll see how that holds. I believe my driving style is improving constantly, so that may also be part of the jump.
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08-31-2008, 11:19 PM
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Multiple test variables pretty much invalidate the "test".
I have gas logs spanning years and looking at them, you'd never be able to pick out the point at which the car was lowered.
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08-31-2008, 11:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Binger
now she can't remember anything that happened before the 6th grade.
BE CAREFUL!
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Oh Hell......I thought that was normal I had better go get me noggin checked out
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08-31-2008, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by me and my metro
This is as close as I can get with OBD 1 car....
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Don't forget the MPGuino if you want to instrument your car...
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09-29-2008, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee
Multiple test variables pretty much invalidate the "test".
I have gas logs spanning years and looking at them, you'd never be able to pick out the point at which the car was lowered.
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Frank's right on the money there. Can't really assign the 4 mpg gain to lowered ride height when several things were changed @ once.
Nevertheless, I just made your car the poster (OK, thumbnail) child for " reduced ride height" in the EM mods list: Vehicle mods for better fuel economy.
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10-01-2008, 10:24 PM
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Hand Throttle?
I installed a hand throttle on my 89 4dr Geo and got 56.6 mpg @ 55 mph...however, it was a handfull (No pun intended)
I got 54 mpg maintaining 55 mph rigidly, without the hand throttle.
I eventually removed the hand throttle.
Point? conservative driving equals high mileage...55 mph does VERY well in Geos.
Hand throttles and hills make for complicated driving. Forget I mentioned them.
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