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Old 05-21-2016, 07:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That's two problems right there: you don't have proof, and there isn't ANY theoretical basis for that level of improvement. Oh- three problems: nobody else can credibly claim results like that either. Give it up Man, nobody here is buying it.
You can say that all you want I ain't listening!! I have first hand experience and you don't!! Plain and simple!!

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Old 05-21-2016, 10:20 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I tried it several years ago.
I kept records.
I never aba tested it because....
It never made a difference.
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:24 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hydrogen burns, very well. We know. Adding anything at all to your gasoline will inrease your mileage, even if only by displacing gasoline- the entire "car" thing is so grossly inefficient that any tweak can be shown to get an improvement simply by looking for one. A Godawful pile of inefficiencies like a ZJ can see a 4 mpg jump due to tidal forces. My POS Albatross (Non SC MT) was falling apart with over 200k and got 4 over EPA. I couldn't even hypermile it the thing sucked so badly, the best I could do was drive it gently.

Can we explore the reasons why no car company has fielded anything more radical than a gas/electric hybrid system? Yes, car owners are stupid and will blow anything up given half a chance. But why haven't the railroads added anything to their diesel/electric systems? Why hasn't the military? They do stupid things because they're a couple percent more effective than conventional as long as they're not too many times more expensive than conventional.

If something actually works, do it for real. If acetone gives you 22% better mileage, why isn't it a part of every fill up?
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Old 05-23-2016, 05:49 PM   #24 (permalink)
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SPANISH saying: "En boca cerrada no entran moscas." = silence is golden.
As always, the literal translation of Spanish idiom is more fun.
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Old 05-23-2016, 07:58 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I personally have used acetone in my Jeep Grand Cherokee, and have gone from 18mpg to 22mpg whenever I use it for a 4mpg improvement(around 18% increase in fuel economy)!!
RED FLAGS!!!!!!

I am concerned about your word choice.
You are restating your position, emphatically, that it works.
Yet your choose to say:
1. "have used" instead of using
2. 'WHENEVER" and not "all the time".....
I mean, with the saving in buying less gas, you should be able to afford always having a bottle around......
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Third: Full underbelly pan
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Sometimes I don't want the mileage increase. Don't you oppress me.
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Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
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Automatic .........................86%

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Third: Full underbelly pan
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At the risk of entering the fray with a modicum of sanity, which is in high demand at our house, I quote my former boss at the engineering test lab. Make your observations and record them in plain English and great detail. That way someone else can verify the experiment. The general use of fuel blending beginning with "Motor Fuels" by Leslie (1929) has been to increase power output by increasing compression ratio. Racing engines and piston aircraft are the most notable applications. One can do amazing things under the lawful conditions. To get a 20% increase in fuel efficiency typically one either has corrected a gross defect or doubled the compression ratio.

Now if anyone cares to learn, I can teach you to toast a marshmallow over a hot wood coal while holding it between your fingers without getting burned. It does take awhile.

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