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Old 01-12-2019, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Adding diesel power to the Nissan Leaf

I really push the limits of what the little leaf is capable of.
Winter pushes the limits of the leaf.
So in winter the poor little leaf gets a double beat down, the cold weakened battery gets to power the resistance heater.
What I need for winter is a good heater that works and causes little to no range loss. You know all the advantages of an electric vehicle with less of the draw backs.

My options are get a 2013 or newer. Meh, by the time I sell this one and get a 13 it would cost at least $3,000.
Put in a bigger battery. If I keep this car it's going to happen at some point, no point in doing it early and the supply of used 40kwh packs hasn't materialized yet.

So the 3rd option is to put in a diesel fired air or coolant heater.
The air heater would go in the back and blow air forward. The diesel fired coolant heater would tie into the heater coolant loop and work with the existing heater and blower.
Hopefully I can score one of these heaters this summer, when no one wants them for cheap. Hopefully a German made Eberspacher, none of that chicom garbage, I don't want to set my car on fire.

I know some one will cry "this isn't fossil fuel free".
I look at it this way. Bio diesel could be used, if it didn't gel, so probably not, but it's plausible.
Using a little bit of diesel enables electric vehicles to give a less miserable, over all better, safer winter driving experience.


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Old 01-12-2019, 08:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Plug in electric jacket liner and glove liners.
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https://www.ventureheat.com/motorcyc...iner-lite.html
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https://www.ventureheat.com/134-moto...ve-liners.html
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Propane camping heater to defrost before driving when parked away from a plug.
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We have Webasto diesel heaters in our trucks at work. They sip fuel and seem fairly trouble free. 0.13 gallons per hour on high is 13,300 BTU/hr.
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They shove webasto heaters in school busses,too. Might find one in a schoolbus scrapyard like the one near Barstow.
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I need the defroster to work with out killing the battery.

I already tried using a propane heater. The results were as I expected. It will deice the outside great and fog up the inside pretty good too. It's marginally more effective than using the factory heater alone. But I still have to use the battery heater.

At home I just plug in a 120v little space heater.

I will check out webasto heaters too.

I'm going to have to say that using the battery for heat is a waste.
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I forgot about the propane heater throwing out moisture
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Fleabay has Chinese made diesel heaters starting at about $200. There are reviews on YouTube if you want some reassurance they’re not complete junk. Look up parking heaters.
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Given the stakes I'm not using the chicom junk.
I have seen them get plenty of 1 and 2 star reviews on ebay, mainly just from them not working, being dead on arrival, or breaking down almost immediately.
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Oh, I understand not wanting to buy from certain countries...

My take on ebay items...whatever it is probably isn't going to be put in to severe service, so why pay 4x or more as much for it? Its a case of choosing between cheap or not at all; I'll take cheap.
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Have you considered using something like the Goal Zero Yeti and a plug in heater?

No fuel fumes or mess. The 1000 is $999 at Costco right now.

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