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Old 01-13-2019, 04:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Have you considered using something like the Goal Zero Yeti and a plug in heater?

No fuel fumes or mess. The 1000 is $999 at Costco right now.
If I'm going to spend that kind of money I want full 15,000 max to 5,000 min BTUs per hour the whole time I'm driving.
Plus I already have a 0.6kwh lithium iron phosphate battery with a 2000w pure sine inverter. It works ok. But I would kill it in a half hour. It wouldn't even make it to the next town over and back. Then if it's a cold snowy icey day that's when I need it most.
The whole point is I want the energy density of the fuel to save wear on the vehicle battery. I have about $700 in amp20 cells in my lithium power pack. So shifting the heating load to my power pack isn't much improvement.

I'm going to using this thing from October or November through march or April. Maybe longer, in 2018 I had hard freeze warnings into June. I would probably use it almost daily during those times.

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Old 01-16-2019, 11:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So, cabin heat? With my air-cooled VWs, it was a nice-if-it-happens thing.

What's the use case? One hour of heat round-trip from a fixed base? Maybe you could put eutectic (phase change) salts in a wire basket and force air over it?
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There's discussion on the Bolt forum about adding a diesel heater too. If you need it, you need it.
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Mostly just a want for me since I am in new Mexico.
Only really need it for about a month out of the year when wintet briefly turns brutally cold.
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Ben Nelson added a fuel heater to his I-miev, as well as adding some insulation.

https://300mpg.org/2016/11/01/insula...-electric-car/

https://300mpg.org/2016/02/07/fired-...e-fuel-heater/

https://300mpg.org/2016/02/14/imiev-...-installation/
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Does it have to be diesel? You could mount this on your front bumper, (or under your hood, if there is room) use the electricity, and run the exhaust under your feet.
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Yes it has to be diesel. I like diesel. Diesel can sit in the heaters fuel tank all summer and be good to go for next winter.
Diesel has almost 0 evaporative emissions compared to gasoline.

Running a little space heater off a little generator is only going to net me around 3,000 to 4,000 BTUs per hour. I want more like 15,000 BTUs per hour.
On a typical cold night the heater demand is between 8,000 to 12,000 BTUs per hour.
Normally it's over 9,000.

If I'm running the defrost I can use all 17,000 BTUs per hour of diesel heat no problem.
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Get a very small ICE to use a generator. Use the waste heat for heating, use the electricity on an electric heater. You can also use it to charge the batteries, for example to extend the range, if needed.
With cogeneration the fuel will be used very efficiently.
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I'm not interested in range extending yet.
Not using the traction battery powered heater when it's 10F is all the range extending I need.
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Webasto and other marine diesel heaters should fill the bill, so to speak. Great idea on range extension and real comfort too.

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