03-28-2013, 09:40 AM
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Very cool! Heck, I can do most of that pretty easily, I think. Aside from the lowering, anyway. What are the rope-looking things hanging off the trunk?
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03-28-2013, 10:08 AM
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Very cool! Heck, I can do most of that pretty easily, I think. Aside from the lowering, anyway. What are the rope-looking things hanging off the trunk?
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i believe their parachute cords attached to the chute
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03-28-2013, 10:17 AM
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Yep more than likely, they are a parachute.
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03-28-2013, 10:46 AM
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I'd like to know why you're against the belly pans and grille blocks.
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1. Belly pans are a maintenance issue for one thing. Another thing is that with an already low sitting car the benefits may not be all that obvious.
A piece of conveyor belt material hung in front of the tires as shown and you might be able to pull off a Corvette type cooling arrangement when blocking the grille. I have no idea how much engineering GM puts into this, and it may not be something you want to do in your own backyard.
2. Grille blocks; back in 1983 I put some cardboard in front of my radiator on a 1976 short box Ford van, 6 cyl with three on a tree shifter. On a early spring day which got much warmer than expected the truck ran hotter than I would liked to have seen - I was helping a friend move and could not stop or I would have lost them. I ended up replacing the head gasket shortly afterwords. The van would not warm up on short trip winter days, and Michigan springs are anything but predictable. No grille blocks for me, not even in the winter - sorry.
Maybe modern engines with electric fans take to grille blocking much better than the old cars/trucks. I for one just don't care to chance it, and the GM Dex-Cool engine I have is reported to have coolant and possible head gasket issues if not properly maintained. I'd rather not temp fate nor take unnecessary risks. Once burned, twice shy.
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03-28-2013, 11:56 AM
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I agree with the others here regarding the kamm. The stang you have has a great rear profile and I'm certain Ford has optimzed the flow off the back, so anything you do short of a full kamm will certainly degrade the Cd.
Grill blocking I think would certainly be a way to gain aero efficiency. Modern cars are designed to keep cool while going uphill, with a full load on a 120 degree day. If you block the upper grill area, I'm sure there would be enough air through the bottom opening to keep you cool.
Also you mentioned accelerating slowly, you may want to look into driving habits more to rethink that. It is counter intuitive, but you should accelerate while your engine is running at its peek BSFC efficiency, which for your car may get you a ticket for display of power er something.
Hope this helps.
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03-28-2013, 12:10 PM
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Also you mentioned accelerating slowly, you may want to look into driving habits more to rethink that. It is counter intuitive, but you should accelerate while your engine is running at its peek BSFC efficiency, which for your car may get you a ticket for display of power er something.
Hope this helps.
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I think there is a "Sticky" in the general forum which discusses real time on-board after-market computers which display the MPG.
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03-28-2013, 01:50 PM
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I agree with the others here regarding the kamm. The stang you have has a great rear profile and I'm certain Ford has optimzed the flow off the back, so anything you do short of a full kamm will certainly degrade the Cd.
Grill blocking I think would certainly be a way to gain aero efficiency.
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Agreed. And as you see here, it can even look nearly stock :
( Note the wheel well gap is very small and the tires are nearly flush with the fenders .)
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03-28-2013, 02:21 PM
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Lowering the vehicle using Eibach pro-kit would be easy to do, I did it on my own with basic tools and a spring compressor. Although it would allow your car to me much more responsive in the handling department so that would be a choice if you wanted to have more fun in the twisties or not. Ride quality would still be great and you can expect 1.5 -2" lowering.
It would allow you to not have to use such a large front air dam, shrink some wheel well gap and look much cooler.
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03-28-2013, 02:28 PM
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03-28-2013, 02:35 PM
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Lowering the vehicle using Eibach pro-kit would be easy to do, I did it on my own with basic tools and a spring compressor. Although it would allow your car to me much more responsive in the handling department so that would be a choice if you wanted to have more fun in the twisties or not. Ride quality would still be great and you can expect 1.5 -2" lowering.
It would allow you to not have to use such a large front air dam, shrink some wheel well gap and look much cooler.
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Although I agree with this on all points, because I want to do the same with my car... You only forgot one thing, scraping the underside of your car on every speedbump and pothole. It is a compromise, looks nice, eliminates wheel gap, less need for belly pan, shorter air dam, but you have to be much more careful when driving around town. The eibachs would probably cost a bit more than the other modifications as well but would take less time to install than putting all of the other mods on.
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