AMERICANS: Would you buy a 125cc motorcycle for the street?

[JSH]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Then maybe some random 125cc cruiser-styled would be more suitable, due to a lower seat height, even though they're not so absolutely a featherweight.

Looking at European pages from the major brands small cruisers aren’t available in Europe. Small bikes are standards, sport bikes, trail bikes, or scooters. If you want a cruiser seating position in Europe it looks like Scooters are the bike to go with.

[Bicycle Bob]

This is the eco-MODDER forum. If you have been shopping all day and don't like the price or features offered, it is time to start browsing components and sketching.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Bob

This is the eco-MODDER forum. If you have been shopping all day and don't like the price or features offered, it is time to start browsing components and sketching.

He already told you that is not possible in Germany.

In Germany every vehicle has to pass TUV inspection where they go over the vehicle with a fine tooth comb. Everything has to work and to be stock. Any aftermarket modifications have to be certified by the part manufacturer to work on your specific year, make and model of vehicle.

[Bicycle Bob]

Originally Posted by JSH

He already told you that is not possible in Germany.

In Germany every vehicle has to pass TUV inspection where they go over the vehicle with a fine tooth comb. Everything has to work and to be stock. Any aftermarket modifications have to be certified by the part manufacturer to work on your specific year, make and model of vehicle.

Alas! There was a time when 14 yr olds, riding much-modified Honda 50s, flat on the tank, would blitz through city centers.

[Autobahnschleicher]

Originally Posted by Joggernot

With 29" (73 cm) leg inseam, I had to go with a small Yamaha. The 250 was excellent for short trips. Later I got a Yamaha 1100 for road trips.

I've found an interesting bike.
Hower it's insanely rare and a little odd:
The Honda CBR250RR MC22 157 kg curb weight, 735 mm seat height, 40-45 PS, 200 km/h topspeed, max torque at 12.000 rpm, max power at 15.000 rpm, redline 19.000 rpm.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

That 4-cyl CBR 250 and similar models from other manufacturers are awesome. When it comes to the engine, also fitted to the JDM Hornet 250, its valvetrain is entirely gear-driven which is an interesting feature.

Originally Posted by JSH

Looking at European pages from the major brands small cruisers aren’t available in Europe. Small bikes are standards, sport bikes, trail bikes, or scooters.

There used to be 125cc cruisers from mainstream Japanese motorcycle brands in Europe, as in some countries such as Portugal and Spain it's possible to ride one with a car driving license. There was even a Honda Shadow 125 with the same V-Twin fitted to the Varadero 125.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

There used to be 125cc cruisers from mainstream Japanese motorcycle brands in Europe, as in some countries such as Portugal and Spain it's possible to ride one with a car driving license. There was even a Honda Shadow 125 with the same V-Twin fitted to the Varadero 125.

Used to be. This is what Honda has for 125cc bikes now and they have the largest selection among the Japanese brands. Honda's smallest cruiser sold in Germany is the Rebel 500

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Buying used was not pointed out as totally out of question.

[Autobahnschleicher]

I've had a test-ride on a Brixxton Felsberg 125, this bike checks most of my criteria.
Seat height:780 mm
Weight: 134 kg
But it's a little low in power, only 8,2 kW/10,7 hp at 9000 rpm.
Manufacturer rated topspeed is 99 km/h, archived maximum indicated speed was 116 km/h with head tucked behind handlebars.
Wich is a little slow, that bike with the full 11kW would probably be great.

[Bicycle Bob]

Originally Posted by Autobahnschleicher

I've had a test-ride on a Brixxton Felsberg 125, this bike checks most of my criteria.
Seat height:780 mm
Weight: 134 kg
But it's a little low in power, only 8,2 kW/10,7 hp at 9000 rpm.
Manufacturer rated topspeed is 99 km/h, archived maximum indicated speed was 116 km/h with head tucked behind handlebars.
Wich is a little slow, that bike with the full 11kW would probably be great.

Speed comes from streamlining. Are aftermarket fairings allowed?