04-13-2020, 07:19 AM
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Anyone buy & store fuel?
I just bought a new 2020 GMC Canyon with the 2.8L duramax diesel.
I also have a Kubota 3 cylinder diesel tractor.
With diesel prices locally floating around $2.30 ive been thinking about buying in bulk & saving for a time when it's much higher.
I can realistically & easily store 100 gallons of diesel.
Anyone do this? Anything i need to watch out for?
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04-13-2020, 08:55 AM
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Anyone do this? Anything i need to watch out for?
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I would wait for $0.99
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04-13-2020, 09:22 AM
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Buying while the price is lower and using it when the price is higher is always a good idea, with a few caveats:
I've seen it reported that traditional diesel can be stored for a year or more. But, after hydoscopic vegetable matter is added to create the now-common "B" type diesel fuel, the storage time is six months or less.
The use of additives such as Biobar-JF is often recommended when storing diesel in order to prevent microbes from gumming up the works, which will increase the cost slightly.
And storing the diesel in full tanks that have relatively small temperature-induced atmospheric moisture collection effects is also recommended.
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04-13-2020, 12:50 PM
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I store up to 500 gallons in 2 above ground containers. I used to get fuel for $1/gallon and the containers were given to me, so it was easily justified.
You'll need a pump, hose, nozzle, filter, and flow meter if you're interested in metering how much fuel you deliver. That all adds up.
I don't have problems with growth in the fuel and don't treat it with anything. That said, I don't draw off the bottom of the tank (I draw about an inch from the bottom) and have a filter.
In ground is probably better since it regulates temperature and blocks sunlight.
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04-13-2020, 01:17 PM
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Diesel can be stored for years. When I was in japan all buildings has backup diesel generators. The diesel fuel tanks held 100 to 500 gallons and it never got replaced. Every 6 months each generator would get fired up for 30 minutes and that was it. Then the tanks would get topped off when they got below the full mark.
The larger tanks likely take 20 years to burn through.
Definitely don't try to store bio diesel.
When I was in Langely I stored a 55 gallon drum for most of the time I was living there, from 2006 to 2011. I filled it up some time by mid 2006, used some when diesel prices went stupid high in 2007 to 2008, then finished it off when I moved in 2011.
I have a 500 gallon propane tank I want to turn into a diesel tank.
Just going to weld a stainless 2 inch NPT half coupler on the top so I can drop my old "55 gallon barrel pump" in there which I got for free, weld a stainless 1/2 inch NPT bung on the bottom to drain off water.
Everyone who has the space and lack of stupid state laws should store some fuel.
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04-13-2020, 06:26 PM
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sweet. I picked up 45 gallons today - I'll transfer to my 55 gallon drum tonight & add some sta-bil diesel treatment then go back for more. I have 5 gallon cans for 45 gallons & the 55 gallon drum/barrel.
So just about 100 gallons.
With the Diesel tax situation I will take any opportunity to save a buck!
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04-13-2020, 08:34 PM
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New low sulfur diesel will not store near as well as the old stuff from just 10 years ago. So you will need to add something to it or use something like an Algae-X with recirculation pump. It's not actually algae that forms, but waxes and asphalt clump out on bacteria in the diesel, they just call it algae.
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04-14-2020, 11:22 AM
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Also check your fuel suplier carefully, many states mandate either B5+ or an alcohol aditive in non agricultural fuel
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04-14-2020, 07:28 PM
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Its 5% biodiesel
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04-15-2020, 08:00 AM
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A 5% biodiesel rating seems pretty typical nowadays, whether the pump is so-marked or not. We often don't have a choice.
The individual consumer and the market no longer make decisions for what is most efficient or desirable. It's the politicians who know best; to be more precise, the politicians know best after the campaign contributions come in. That's when they can clearly see what products need to be taxed, regulated, and otherwise modified to fit the lobbyists' specifications.
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