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Old 09-14-2019, 08:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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As far as I can tell know one has put an appropriate hub motor on a car, driven it on the road in the real world and been able to wear out a set of tires on one with out having to pull the hub motor to replace bearings or replace the hub motor it's self.

For comparison the only drive line maintenance my leaf has had to wear out a set of tires is an oil change and it wasn't even required.

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Old 09-15-2019, 04:01 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Arcimoto uses two shafted motors.

And they make fire trucks...

https://www.arcimoto.com/rapid-responder/
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If it's a 2 shafted motor then it's likely that the motor is connected to the hubs via CV shafts, therefore it's not a hub motor and eliminates all the problems associated with hub motors.
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:26 AM   #34 (permalink)
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If it's a 2 shafted motor then it's likely that the motor is connected to the hubs via CV shafts..
Two shafted motors, not a two-shafted motor; but yes.
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That thing probably weights as much as a lady's purse.
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This is the in-wheel motor that Aptera is working with:

https://in-wheel.com/

It includes a disk brake; and weighs 23kg.
Make them in 14, with less HP and a lot cheaper and I will throw a set on the rear of my Insight
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Its a novelty.
With 2 people in it is there even room for a few bags of groceries or a book bag?

I want to know how long those obseenly big hub motors are going to last and how it's going to handle with that ridiculous unsprung weight ratio?
Aptera says the unnamed Aptera model formerly known as 2e can fit 8 golfbags ⛳ in the back and a surfboard. This because the Aptera is 4:40 in length.

The in-wheel motors are also a big unknown for me on the reliability front. It seems Lotus engineering after study found that the unsprung weight can be handled by suspension tweaking and tuning. But the people at Protean say that their motors should be good for 300000 km of use. That is not really comforting if your planning to use the Aptera for a long time.https://spectrum.ieee.org/transporta...more-efficient
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Third post from the Netherlands and you deserve better, thank you for pushing back. Lurk in The Lounge and you will understand that Xist has a hard, hard life. We put up with him because he is one of us.

I compare the Aptera to Arcimoto (NASDAQ:FUV) and Edison2, all three are alive and well (apparently). I'd be happy with any of them, moreso if they were amphibian.
I will read up. Thanks for the heads up. If the Edison2 would also incorporate some Jason Hill design into the VLC (they have a concept on the Design 11 website) it would be a great competitor of Aptera and great company.

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