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Old 10-25-2014, 04:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Hyundai and Kia will pay a record combined $100 million penalty for overstating fuel economy estimates for many of their vehicles.


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They messed up the EPA for my car too just the other way around..
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Originally Posted by niky View Post
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It's why more and more naturally aspirated cars are coming with a stupidly U-shaped torque curve. Gaming the EPA. The bottom of the U fits neatly into their planned acceleration profile.
Sorry to bring up an old post, I've been away. Can you link to some examples?
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Sorry to bring up an old post, I've been away. Can you link to some examples?
http://mirageforum.com/forum/attachm...1&d=1383841237









The bottom of the "U" typically corresponds to highway cruising speed... or likely specific rpm shift points on fuel economy tests. So it's either "cycle beating" or simply a way of encouraging drivers to shift up at an earlier rpm. Possibly a bit of both.

There is, of course, a cam-changeover point in there somewhere for the FR-S and the MItsubishi... which can account for some of the difference.

Here on the Mazda3, you can see the initial dip in torque occurs before the dip due to the cam changeover...


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