02-25-2013, 01:43 AM
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I don't like the Iron Duke engine, too over square, EcoTec I4 isn't bad.
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That's another possibility. BTW for export markets in Europe the Pontiac Trans Sport was available from the factory with a 5-speed and the Oldsmobile Quad-4 engine.
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02-25-2013, 01:59 AM
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Yea, the Azteks aren't for everyone. I like 'em. They're similar to the minivan, seats come out, fits the '4X8', their different.
Frank, I think you're right, the less surface area makes a difference.
My friend once owned a Turbo Charged 4 cylinder 5 speed Dodge minivan. It was a late 80's model. Not the most appealing, but I'd think if used right it could get decent mpg.
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02-25-2013, 02:03 AM
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...I'm not sure what a stock Mazda 5 is capable of, ...
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My brother in law has a Mazda 5 with the 5 speed automatic. He has gotten right around 30 to 35 mpg at highway speeds. In town around 27. Basically it's a Mazda 3 hatchback platform with a taller shape and minivan sliding doors. Quite capable, considering it's roots.
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02-25-2013, 12:11 PM
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The Aztec has the same engine as the Ventura and has the same MPG rating.
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02-25-2013, 01:39 PM
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My two cents worth:
As far as bang for the buck goes, a friend of ours had a 1993 caravan AWD with the 3.0L v6, which reportedly got worse fuel mileage than the 4 banger, but she consistently saw around 25 mpg on the highway without even being "eco-footed", She still has the van and i belive its on around 350,000 miles now with one blown headgasket, and 1 tranny rebuild, they definitely dont cost much to buy used anymore, so in my view thats the best van you can get if on a budget, which i always am!
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02-25-2013, 02:41 PM
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Mazda 5 seems like a good option with a manual.
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Drive it only in reverse to take advantage of an already made boat tail!
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02-25-2013, 09:07 PM
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The 4cyl caravan and 6 cyl venture are both rated higher mpg than the transport.
Transports and Ventures suck (poor rating) in the crash test:
Toyota Previa even worse.
Crash ratings: 40 mph off center hit (driver to driver)
Previa 2 broken legs, broken neck and fractured skull.
Venture: 2 broken legs and concussion.
Caravan: 1 broken leg
Windstar: walk away
Sienna: open door and walk away
Odyssey 1999+: walk away
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02-25-2013, 09:43 PM
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Come down to forgottonia and take my Windstar. It already has some aero mods. If you want a 5 speed the taurus made a Yamaha powered model would would nearly bolt in. It can get 25-28 as is though.
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02-26-2013, 09:02 AM
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Dave, I may take you up on your offer, but leave the van behind, It will take 2 or 3 days to ride there.
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02-26-2013, 09:34 AM
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I've always wanted one of the 80s Toyota cab over space cruisers
2300lbs with an efi 2.2L and a 5 speed. Unimpressive official mpg numbers though, like 23 highway
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