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Old 02-07-2010, 02:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Although the basic math is correct, unless you are truly impoverished and starving it doesn't really apply. Who here can't spare a few hundred calories a day without adjusting your diet? I can and choose to use them to commute by bike.
I can't. I don't want to talk about it either.

A fat guy who needs to bike, can pretend a less calorie consuming efficient, because the slob has a bigger full gas tank.
but then again, if your lean or trained like a pro, calories disappear like a race engine, or folks like me, calories just disappear.

I wouldn't even attempt rice. I would have to go for broke thinking of 94 miles and grab 10 pounds of beef....at cheap stuff, hey, 30 dollars.

and that is only you getting hauled around. no passengers. A gas car is more efficient of course, if that is what this thread is about.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I can't. I don't want to talk about it either.

A fat guy who needs to bike, can pretend a less calorie consuming efficient, because the slob has a bigger full gas tank.
but then again, if your lean or trained like a pro, calories disappear like a race engine, or folks like me, calories just disappear.

I wouldn't even attempt rice. I would have to go for broke thinking of 94 miles and grab 10 pounds of beef....at cheap stuff, hey, 30 dollars.

and that is only you getting hauled around. no passengers. A gas car is more efficient of course, if that is what this thread is about.
You pay $3 a lb for ground beef? Jeez dude... You could get it for like $0.99 a lb if there's a meat grinder anywhere near you... it's all about getting the seconds, though. I used to get it for dog feed when I worked at a dog farm (that's the polite term), to mix with brown rice and feed to the dogs for extra protein and calories. Invariably, I'd have some of that rice and meat with beans and a little beef gravy for lunch.
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81.6 miles - pinto beans
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That's pretty cool, I wonder how far you can go if you supplement the pinto bean propulsion with some pedaling, too?
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Don't forget the arm-chair exercise of lifting beer to face.
Better known as the 12-ounce curl :-)

Just to keep the record straight, I don't fish myself. (And haven't since I was a kid, since I could never catch much of anything on a hook - though I did get fairly good at tickling trout.) I just picked that from a long list of activities as seeming closest to driving in calorie burn.
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Better known as the 12-ounce curl :-)

Just to keep the record straight, I don't fish myself. (And haven't since I was a kid, since I could never catch much of anything on a hook - though I did get fairly good at tickling trout.) I just picked that from a long list of activities as seeming closest to driving in calorie burn.
I don't fish either... the reel and pole are just there because the beer stays colder in the water.
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I'm thinking of the bicycle-powered rickshaw we took on a city tour of Victoria, B.C. One teenage cyclist moving my family of four. He was geared low, but obviously had to work hard. Assuming he needed double the normal bicycle calories to move us, but quintupling the payload, that has to be a very efficient way to travel.
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Another consideration: instead of eating more, you might just reduce caloric output in other areas of life to compensate. This could be not going to the gym (saving money on the membership) or jogging after work since you got your exercise during your commute, or it could be something sub-conscious like you fidget a little less when sitting at your desk. Studies have shown that if you force feed people more calories than normal, they tend to fidget more.

I was gonna also add that the original calculations of the caloric needs of cycling seem to have not deducted the base metabolic rate (only about 250-300 additional calories), that there will eventually be extra costs in health care from not getting exercise, and the money saved by not paying insurance and and parking and maintenance and the car payments themselves, but someone beat me to it

Bottom line, car doesn't come remotely close to being as cheap as a bike by any measure when all costs are taken into account
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A few months ago I returned home just as my neighbor pulled into his driveway. It was cold (around freezing) with some rain and sleet, and he yells to me: You rode your bike? In this weather?!?

So the other day we both returned home at the same time again, only now the weather is warm, sunny, with no wind. And I yell to him: You took the car? In this weather?!?
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Yeah, they say chess masters burn like 6,000-7,000 calories in a game. Our brain takes a lot of calories, too, folks!

I think the whole premise of this thread is a red herring!

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