08-03-2023, 01:38 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fort Myers Fl
Posts: 113
Thanks: 111
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
|
Camper/ travel trailer diy under 2,000lbs
I've been wanting a small camper for a long time now, tent camping just isn't the blast that it used to be.
There are a few guides, discussions, etc about how to do it cheapest, roomiest, etc but what I don't see is people who want to keep their tow rig optimally efficient.
My idea is somewhat borrowed from an individual on a forum who built a camper/ toy hauler from an old boat trailer and a semi truck's sleeper.
I like the idea and happen to have a boat trailer albeit quite a bit larger than his but I plan to turn the box so that the short (5 foot) side is facing forward instead of the (8 foot) side as is his design.
I was able to find basically exactly the same sleeper locally for $800 which is much more reasonable than an enclosed trailer here.
I have a ridiculously long tongue to deal with, tandem axles and a plasma cutter.
The plan is to pull with my 01 beetle tdi with a class 1 hitch rated at 2,000 lbs so I need to keep it as light weight as possible.
I would like to include a truncated boat tail, probably some skirts and wheel covers.
Open to any and all suggestions. Please open my eyes to whatever I may be missing.
Thanks,
Dave
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
08-03-2023, 11:48 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,279
Thanks: 24,401
Thanked 7,368 Times in 4,767 Posts
|
trailer aero
https://ecomodder.com/forum/member-a...l-trailers.jpgI recommend that you visit the website for the Airship 1, telescoping, RV travel trailer, with an eye towards the relationship between the tow vehicle & trailer as a aerodynamic singularity.
A boat tail cannot function until all turbulence upstream has been eliminated.
All that void, between the front face of the sleeper and the tongue needs to be enclosed by some sort of structure which integrates what you have, to the back of the tow vehicle. This includes the trailer's underbody.
The 'lightest' solutions would be to:
1) find a commercial awning manufacturer who can create an aluminum skeleton, and then cover with a taut aerospace fabric, as you see used with inflatable advertising.
2) find an auto/marine/ aircraft upholstery shop which can tailor and sew an inflatable envelope, strapped to the trailer 'floor', which takes on the desired form, when connected to a 12-VDC blower, powered by an electrical umbilical cord passing forwards to your battery.
3) or find an old high school, gear-drive SINGER sewing machine, from a home-economics classroom, and teach yourself how to do it yourself.
I'll try and link a photo of a commercial product from England which was never offered for sale in the USA which will give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
Last edited by aerohead; 08-03-2023 at 11:52 AM..
Reason: add photo
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-03-2023, 12:16 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fort Myers Fl
Posts: 113
Thanks: 111
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
|
Thank you aerohead. I had seen a few similar ideas for the rear of a semi trailer, maybe it was you as well? But I had not thought to implement such a method.
I may buy a 10 foot John boat and was thinking of putting it on the roof of the tow rig but maybe it will become the front tapered face of the trailer?
I will update as my plan progresses and I gather materials and supplies.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to razordave For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-03-2023, 01:18 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,585
Thanks: 8,104
Thanked 8,895 Times in 7,340 Posts
|
First qustion: Do you need the trailer? It's unfortunate that tinypic.com ate all the pictures but in ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/ompact camper alternative: New Beetle TDI with hard mounted pop up tent member HHOTDI found that repositioning a rooftop tent to a post on the trailer hitch increased the MPG over the bare configuration.
That brick shape for $800? Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers • View forum - Foamies
The gap problem aerohead point to would be minimized with a single-wheel trailer. It would make the underbody transition managable.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-03-2023, 01:31 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,279
Thanks: 24,401
Thanked 7,368 Times in 4,767 Posts
|
'john boat'
Quote:
Originally Posted by razordave
Thank you aerohead. I had seen a few similar ideas for the rear of a semi trailer, maybe it was you as well? But I had not thought to implement such a method.
I may buy a 10 foot John boat and was thinking of putting it on the roof of the tow rig but maybe it will become the front tapered face of the trailer?
I will update as my plan progresses and I gather materials and supplies.
|
They're very light! Upside-down, with the prow into the 'wind', the air would favor it! If the height of the TV and Trailer roofs matched, even better.
Long ago, expedition rigs combined boats with trailers to create better sectional density, less porosity, and they did take care to match structure to structure.
Good thinking!
Plus you'd have a boat, and option to incorporate into travel plans.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-03-2023, 11:13 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fort Myers Fl
Posts: 113
Thanks: 111
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
|
Freebeard, I probably don't need need need the trailer, but if I decide to take my garden tractor on an expedition or build a mud mower or even buy an atv, it would be handy to drag the toys with me.
I lived in a semi truck for the past 18 months so maybe I lost my mind and have already turned into Ray from trailer park boys.. livin in an old sleeper cab down in the dump lol
My plan is to build it as a bare bones camper and utilize it as secure dry storage, at least until I can muster up enough funds to meander around the country.
Last edited by razordave; 08-10-2023 at 04:08 AM..
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to razordave For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-04-2023, 02:56 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,585
Thanks: 8,104
Thanked 8,895 Times in 7,340 Posts
|
Here is my design for a teardrop/tent trailer.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-04-2023, 03:01 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fort Myers Fl
Posts: 113
Thanks: 111
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
|
That's super slick. maybe someday when I learn how to use a sewing machine proficiently..
I have a 3 person tent brand new in the package, it'll probably stay there at least until autumn.
I'm usually more interested in preparing food than base camp setup, hence why I'm considering dragging the lodge around behind me.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to razordave For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-04-2023, 04:14 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,585
Thanks: 8,104
Thanked 8,895 Times in 7,340 Posts
|
That's a scan of a sketch done in the 1970s (hence the thumb print). There is one other design that is produceable, maybe not as suited to your needs
Originally an ice fishing hut, it could serve as a outhouse, tool shed, coffee kiosk... anything that needs a door.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
|
|
08-10-2023, 04:18 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Apprentice
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Fort Myers Fl
Posts: 113
Thanks: 111
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
|
Truck topper
So.. I was given an old aluminum truck cap.
Possibly from an old s10. The roof is 3 inches wider than the roof of the beetle. From the trailing edge of my sunroof, the cap is the same distance to my hitch.
I am trying to work out in my head how to mount this without too much irreversible modifications to the car. So far I'm thinking to cut the front side completely out and maybe remove the hatch from the car.
I think I want to mount to the hitch, but I also don't want to inhibit pulling a trailer.
Maybe it will turn out like the rooftop camper that freebeard mentioned in the earlier post
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to razordave For This Useful Post:
|
|
|