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Old 07-16-2017, 08:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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OP said that the engine was declared dead. There should be an oil pressure warning and a flashing CEL if pressure drops below some threshold. I'm not familiar with the Volt though, so I don't know if it has those indicator lamps. I know my Prius has no engine coolant temperature gauge.



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He was mistaken, the Volt tells you when oil pressure is low, he assumed it was dead because the dealer said it was and because the pump was noisy.

The guy who bought it just flushed and installed an oil pump rebuild kit.

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Holy cow.

It tells you these cars are going for peanuts at the dealer auctions.
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getting less cheap?

Some used electric-car prices start tracking higher

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Nissan Leaf: The electric vehicle that has exemplified plummeting value in recent years has finally stopped its depreciation plunge. According to J.D. Power and Associates, 2015 Leaf wholesale prices are about 1 percent higher than they were a year ago. It's just 1 percent, but still.
And the Leaf is not alone...

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Fiat 500e retention is at 21 percent in the fourth quarter, up from 18 percent a year ago; Chevrolet Spark EV value retention is 25 percent this quarter, vs. 21 percent in the fourth quarter of 2017.
The Spark EV's wholesale prices are also up 10 percent year over year. Dixon said volumes on the Ford Focus EV were too low to cite, but trends indicate that prices and retained value have firmed up for that car as well.
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news...racking-higher

Theories to explain the reversal in plunging EV prices:

- The cost of all cars is rising, making used ones more valuable (but if that were true, wouldn't we be seeing some used ICE vehicles going up in value, year-over-year?)

- The fire sale/rock bottom used EV prices in the last couple of years have spurred demand in buyers, thus driving prices back up a bit.

I think #2 is more likely.
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I predicted in this thread that used EV prices would go up right about now.

Tesla tax credits have been cut in half, and the same will happen to GM in April. Nissan is following closely behind.

If new car sales suddenly become more expensive, that will be reflected in the price of used car prices. Not only that, but plummeting new car sales will shrink used car inventory (shrink supply).

Then there was foreign demand for used EVs that might still be going on. Stricter laws about ICE vehicles increased demand for EVs, but not everyone can afford an expensive new one, so they look elsewhere, to the US.

I'm hoping I didn't really mess up by missing the sweet spot to purchase an EV. A new Leaf or Bolt sounds almost compelling now that Oregon has a credit. Total out of pocket could be somewhere around $20k, which is still way more than I'd like to spend on a vehicle, but then I'd save a lot of time and money on maintenance and "fuel".
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With more and more electric cars on the road so does the charging network grow, which greatly benefits the relatively low range first gen EV's.
They are becoming more practical, so more attractive.
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I can see public charging as more useful in Europe, but I don't see it really becoming much of a selling point in the US. The people that buy EVs here charge at home or at work, and don't charge elsewhere much at all.

Long distance travel in an EV is mostly a novelty/curiosity here.

I don't see lack of charging infrastructure to be much of a barrier to entry here. Cost and lack of variety are the 2 biggest reasons people might not buy one.

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