04-04-2014, 12:38 PM
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Saturn sky redline engine and tranny for a sleeper. A S-10 2.2 with 5 spd would be economical.
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04-04-2014, 05:59 PM
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Keep in mind ive driven 100hp - 230hp cars in NEO for 5 years and 100hp is enough . I can agree 61mph is not a high enough top speed, but there is not a need to go faster.
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I agree that 100 HP is enough, but the Chevette has about half of that at best. Most Dyno test to well under 50 at the wheels, and about 40-50 at the crank.
A Skyline engine/transmission would be awesome. The s10 drivetrain is a good choice too. I'll look into that one.
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Chevettes are like the four-square LEGO block: it ain't big, but lots of stuff can be snapped onto it to make something more.
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That's a great way to put it.
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04-05-2014, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by redneck
Why not ?
1984 Chevette - 1.6L 65hp inline 4, 2000lbs, manual trans. Consumer Guide testers managed "an honest 29 mpg in the city and 39 mpg on the highway." with a cd=0.42
1989 Buick Park Ave -3.8L 165hp V6, 3339lbs, slush box. 19 mpg city - 30mpg highway, with a cd=.40
Lets see.
With a manual trans. fuel injection and a 100 additional horsepower in a car that weighs 1300 lb. less than what the v6 came out of, with nearly a identical coefficient of drag ,it could easily be expected to deliver high mpgs.
A big plus is that nearly all GM products (engines and transmissions ) are interchangeable.
A GM 60 degree V6 is a direct drop in.
The 3.8 however is a 90 degree. It would require a little more work. (exhaust)
This is the way I see it.
1980's Chevette = dirt cheap
1990's GM V6 = cheap
Having a inexpensive classic 1980's eco box that hauls a$$ and gets great mpg
= Priceless
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considering there is atleast 5 very different bellhousing patterns that gm has used over the years in north america; just swaping the 3.8l would be a problem(bop or scb) and that the chevette uses really wierd engines to begin with.
best bet for a 3.8l swap would be to get a wrecked f-body.(only modern fuel injected rwd 3.8l)
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04-05-2014, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by baldlobo
considering there is atleast 5 very different bellhousing patterns that gm has used over the years in north america; just swaping the 3.8l would be a problem(bop or scb) and that the chevette uses really wierd engines to begin with.
best bet for a 3.8l swap would be to get a wrecked f-body.(only modern fuel injected rwd 3.8l)
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Yes, yes.
I was just generalizing for comparison.
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04-05-2014, 02:33 PM
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I think you are in the wrong forum, you'll be lucky to have half a tank left after driving home from the gas station! That's would be a scary car to drive, probably have to replace the rear tires every month, probably brakes them loose in top gear at highway speed. I still think a turbo v8 Fiero would be funner to drive, at least it would get some traction and handle and not all smoking tires. The Vega was designed for a Wankel engine, which GM never got working. I can hear the owner. I said 427 Corvette, not Chevette!
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04-05-2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 23baseball3
I'm looking at some dirt cheap Chevettes and I was wondering what should be done to them. The pitiful horsepower ratings don't help but they are efficient. What engine/transmission swap ideas do you have? Or rear end swaps? Obviously a boat tail or a kammback would work out well too, a grille block, a lower front valence, pizza pans. But what could be done to the drivetrain? I love saving gas but I need to move faster. If I found one with a T-5 that would be nice of course but they're not too common.
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If your faster means cruise velocity rather than acceleration,consider reducing your road horsepower requirement first, with aero and rolling resistance.Then if unsatisfied,go after the power train.
My standard-power, streamlined pickup has better HWY mpg than early,lighter,smaller diesels.
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04-05-2014, 03:51 PM
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The 1.4L turbocharged engine from the Cruze might be nice too.
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04-06-2014, 09:47 AM
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A 100 hp engine is quite enough to cruse at 80 mph in my saturn, in fact I have 180 degree air going in so its probably only 80 hp.
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04-06-2014, 10:10 AM
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Musta been a diesel Tempo- sheesh.
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