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Old 05-21-2018, 05:17 PM   #61 (permalink)
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You don't have a fueling log here on EM. Not interested anymore? EM allows MPGe, no? Do you have one elsewhere we can see? I am curious.
Not to speak for Neil, but man that gets tedious in an EV, I assume even one that can go days in between charges!

Back when I had the Insights and could go weeks between fill-ups it was a lot more enjoyable to maintain the fuel log, but I finally gave up tracking my Volt because I just couldn't keep up with it every day and I'm not sure I was filling it out correctly in the first place.

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Old 05-21-2018, 10:50 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Ah. I get it. Maybe track the data for weeks and then make one entry per month?
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:49 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Ah. I get it. Maybe track the data for weeks and then make one entry per month?
Many apps, chargers, and the car itself track this data. It would be redundant to add that info here. My Prius shows accumulated kWhs charged, and EV miles driven, so I'm able to extrapolate out efficiency that way.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:33 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I will add them back. At the moment, we are averaging 5.6 miles / kWh in the Bolt EV. That's 188MPGe.

I have a Juicebox Pro 40, which has a wireless connection, and I can see the charge total. It is more difficult for me, because there are two other drivers, and they can plug it in, and not reset the trip odometer, etc. With our older EV's (still listed under my avatar), you had to do this daily or every couple of days, and it gets tedious.

With our Bolt EV, we charge every 4-5 days, or so.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:48 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I saw a 2017 bolt EV with less than 100 miles on the odometer for $42,300.
I'm not ever going to spend that kind of money on any car or truck.
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That's normal price for a fully loaded Bolt, plus if it was previously owned then it likely doesn't qualify for the $7,500 federal tax rebate.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:07 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Who's going to buy a $42,000 economy car?
It seems like they are really depending on that credit a lot.
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Old 05-23-2018, 12:56 PM   #68 (permalink)
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You can find new Bolt EV's for a lot less than that. The MSRP on the LT model is $37,500, and with the Federal tax credit, that is $30,000 - and you can probably get it for less than the MSRP.

Most "economy" cars don't get 119MPGe, and cannot be energized by sunshine. All ICE cars require much more regular maintenance, and in total, they will cost several times as much per mile. So, you can save something like $700 every 10K miles you drive. So, in 100K miles the $30,000 (or less) becomes $23,000 or less.
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I have no doubt about all that. 20 to 40 cent per day fuel costs, just jack it up every 50k miles or so and slap new tires on it and go.
But that $30,000+ price tag is going to turn a lot of people off.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:42 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I have no doubt about all that. 20 to 40 cent per day fuel costs, just jack it up every 50k miles or so and slap new tires on it and go.
But that $30,000+ price tag is going to turn a lot of people off.
I mean no offense, but that is a fairly common price point for a lot of people. When you (they) are looking at cars in the 20 to 30k range, a phev or ev can be a reasonable compromise to avoid gas costs.

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