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There's a normie take for you.
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Which is just the derogatory way to refer to something that has withstood the test of time.
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The hunter/gatherers became civilized.
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Because of, or in spite of?
If one were preparing to go to war, or preparing to construct a rocket ship, psychedelics would give them no advantage.
We would expect that if they were advantageous, than administering them to children would create the most successful society, and eventually all societies would adopt the behavior or go extinct.
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12-10-2024, 11:15 PM
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Derogatory? Apologies, I thought it was a neutral term ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Because of, or in spite of?
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Tell me you didn't watch the videos without...
Where to even start? What the Dormouse Said?
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Book by John Markoff
What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry, is a 2005 non-fiction book by John Markoff. Wikipedia
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There're two concepts I want to express to someone else next week that I think are essential for understanding the Simulation: Intelligence and Consensual Reality
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Eight-circuit model of consciousness
The eight-circuit model of consciousness is a holistic model originally presented as psychological philosophy by Timothy Leary in books including Neurologic and Exo-Psychology, later expanded on by Robert Anton Wilson in his books Cosmic Trigger and Prometheus Rising, and by Antero Alli in his books Angel Tech and The Eight-Circuit Brain, that suggests "eight periods [circuits]" within the model. Wikipedia
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There're four terrestrial circuits and four extraterrestrial. The four terrestrial circuits are self/family/tribe/nationstate. I'll leave the extraterrestrial circuits for homework.
The model for physical reality is from Authur M. Young -- The Reflexive Universe
The reflex is the miracle that happens at the fourth level that returns a degree of freedom. There are seven sublevels to each level; we're on the second level in the upper right.
Meditate on the last three verses of Turtles All The Way Down.
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12-11-2024, 12:49 PM
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Issue with mind chemicals: no standard predictable response. Some have a benefit some have extremely bad response. Don't know before hand, really hard to stop event in process. Byproducts of learning. Maybe even turtles.
If youre testing something that's really expensive one off, do you just arbitrarily blow it up the first time you use it?
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12-11-2024, 01:55 PM
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Derogatory? Apologies, I thought it was a neutral term ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I didn't live through the drug culture, so you'd know better than me if referencing non-drug users as Normies or Squares was meant to accurately describe a group, or to 'other' them.
My only point is that normality exists (on a bell-curved spectrum) and is the most common state because of how functional it is.
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I didn't watch initially, because I've never heard a profound thought come from Joe. His comedy is good though, and he's among the best hosts because he's willing to ask the uneducated questions most of us are wondering on any given topic.
I don't find his hypothesis, that primates chewing on every random thing and then finding enlightenment from some of the things they chewed on, as compelling an explanation as genetic evolution theory. It sounds like a lightly digested regurgitation of Genesis 3 though.
100% of what he possibly attributes to having been made better by drug use is art. Art is a luxury for wealthy societies who have leveraged technology to accumulate enough excess that non-vital activities can be pursued.
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There're two concepts I want to express to someone else next week that I think are essential for understanding the Simulation: Intelligence and Consensual Reality
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You've mentioned two different concepts that aren't apparently related... and as I'm always saying, simulation theory doesn't offer any additional utility over the more ancient frames because it merely adds technology into the myth.
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If youre testing something that's really expensive one off, do you just arbitrarily blow it up the first time you use it?
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I'm not understanding where you're going with this question. The Manhattan Project did just that. SpaceX has been doing it. I suppose those weren't arbitrary instances though, as they expected to learn something from it.
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12-11-2024, 03:25 PM
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I didn't live through the drug culture, so you'd know better than me if referencing non-drug users as Normies or Squares was meant to accurately describe a group, or to 'other' them.
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Elvis: "You're so square, baby I don't care."
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The origins of the term Normie are unclear, but it is believed to have originated in the early 2000s on internet forums and social media platforms. It was initially used to describe someone who was perceived as being average or unremarkable, without any particular talents or quirks. Over time, the term took on a more negative connotation, with some groups using it to mock or belittle those who did not fit into their idea of what was "normal."
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Source confirms it can be derogatory, apologies again. I'm being derogatory when I use 'NPC".
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I didn't watch initially,..
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So what did you think? Mr. Rogan's words (for me) are just there to support the After Skool graphics. I really like the presentation style.
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You've mentioned two different concepts that aren't apparently related...
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I'd call the references necessary but not sufficient. I spared you P. D. Ouspensky.
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12-11-2024, 04:37 PM
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Everything is a listen for me, as I'm working on something. That animation style is entertaining and occasionally illustrative.
I'm hearing Joe on his favorite topic here-
https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=t5_EdPRLHuE
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I needs to get me some Bluetooth earphones. Hopefully with active ear protection.
I just listened to Roger Ver on with Tucker Carlson, with a sad story about Bitcoin.
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12-12-2024, 11:12 AM
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' sauce '
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I took from it that the poles are decoupled from the tropics.
Do you have a link to any one of your opposition's rebuttal? The sauce, as they say.
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Research News, 'Greenhouse Skeptic Out in the Cold, a prominent meteorologist says the greenhouse warming will probably be a bust; experts in and out of the climate community staunchly disagree with this latest iconoclast', by Richard A. Kerr, SCIENCE, VOL. 246, 1 December 1989.
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' decoupled '
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I took from it that the poles are decoupled from the tropics.
Do you have a link to any one of your opposition's rebuttal? The sauce, as they say.
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Nothing on the planet is 'decoupled,' it's all connected in an extremely elaborate tapestry, something lost on Richard Lindzen, along with all credibility amongst his peers.
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